To the no voters, may I draw your attention to the following trans women:

• Abigail Thorn aka Philosophy Tube

  

• Natalie Wynn aka Contrapoints

  

• Blaire White

  

• Nava Mau

  

• Jamie Clayton

  

Still feeling confident in that no vote?

@TheAllMemeingEye where's hunter?

@TheAllMemeingEye I'd say bad choices. These are all somewhat late stage transitions (after being testosteronised) and in which case it might be understandable to have some disinterest.

Better examples are from early stage interventions where development of body is in line with brain sex.

@jim could you be more specific? The only Hunter I've heard of is Hunter Biden lol

EDIT: nvm after looking it up I suspect you meant Hunter Schafer, hadn't heard of her before but she definitely fits the bill too

@Anon99 what I'm getting at is that clothing, makeup, and HRT are all so effective that there are many trans women who pass exquisitely despite having to go through male puberty

Who do you have in mind as better examples?

@TheAllMemeingEye Jazz, Hunter, Samantha Lux and others who did not have de-facto evil parents and so got treatment in time and who may or may not be famous

@Anon99 finnster has not ever and does not currently identify as trans fwiw

@AffineTyped yeah he's very femboy coded. I can never see him as a girl lol

@Anon99 I was about to mention this other market but then I saw we already had this argument there XD

@TheAllMemeingEye the argument there seems to be about trans as a broader topic, here he was presented as a woman. He used masc pronouns and identified as gender fluid.

@AffineTyped but I see my comment was paraphrased as "trans" rather than "trans woman". Afaik he doesn't use the label himself for that, so the comment I made is still accurate afaik. Neither identifies as trans, nor is very arguably a woman.

@AffineTyped fine, I'll remove them from the list

@TheAllMemeingEye yes and I was right

@TheAllMemeingEye The pictures give me the willies

@skibidist in a good way I assume?

@TheAllMemeingEye lol no. He means he wants to delete trans women in the pictures

@TheAllMemeingEye https://www.reddit.com/r/4tran4/s/8TajUA691j

@Anon99 why is almost everyone in the comments just constantly heckling them with unfamiliar-to-me but seemingly pejorative-coded names like passoid, youngshit, doll etc? The post doesn't say who the pics are of or where the pics came from, but assuming they are real easily >80% look great, people should be supporting each other not tearing each other down

Wait, @Anon99 (Rana G) is a straight man? Or are they trying to manipulate the results?

@TheAllMemeingEye yes I'm straight man 😌

Straight man and transphobe just like @TannerNewell 😌

(I solely endorse the assertion that I, in particular, am a straight man.) @Anon99

@Anon99 hmm

https://manifold.markets/jim/do-you-enjoy-gooning#yyqkb0sd2jh

It would appear @Schneefackel disagrees, unless you have undergone gender transition since then, in which case being transphobic is a bizarre choice XD

@TheAllMemeingEye wow you keep track of things