American politics 2023: The statutory debt ceiling is raised?
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MayMeta avatar
MayMetabought Ṁ1,000 of YES

@itsTomekK This should resolve YES, Matthew Yglesias confirmed that he indeed counts suspension as raising (unsurprisingly).

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Super Tax Genius

Was the debt ceiling raised? I believe it was suspended!

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MayMeta avatar
MayMetapredicted YES

@SuperTaxGenius There is an argument to be made, that suspension is a temporary "raise to infinity", which was the logic behind a bunch of similar markets.

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Danielbought Ṁ1 of NO
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Marcus Abramovitchpredicted YES

@MayMeta tomek has a lot of markets to resolve

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Yoav

@MayMeta I think these resolve based on what Matt Yglesias says at the end of the year

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Tomek K 🟡predicted YES

@MarcusAbramovitch you can tell me which ones

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Marcus Abramovitchbought Ṁ10,000 of YES

@itsTomekK this one, the Celtics one etc.

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Jim Haysbought Ṁ50 of NO

While this could still resolve YES if the debt ceiling is reinstated this year, then raised, so far it has been suspended only, and not raised, which does not meet the requirements for YES.

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Gabrielle avatar
Gabriellepredicted NO

@JimHays I suspect that Matt Yglesias is not going to be caring about the strict wording when deciding how this resolves, but that's a good point. I'd guess that 97% is about right?

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Tomek K 🟡predicted YES

@Gabrielle it shouldn't resolve YES yet?

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Jim Hayspredicted NO

@itsTomekK The ceiling wasn’t raised. It was suspended, which while having a similar impact, is a distinct action. Most markets about the debt ceiling specified in the resolution criteria that raising or suspending the ceiling would count the same way, but this one didn’t.

jack avatar
Jackbought Ṁ1,000 of YES

@JimHays Pretty sure this is included in what Yglesias meant by "raised". And I'll keep betting on it if others are less sure.

Gabrielle avatar
Gabriellebought Ṁ0 of YES

@jack I’m also pretty sure, but my pretty sure is 97%, so I’ll take the NO bet. 😃

MayMeta avatar
MayMetabought Ṁ5,300 of YES

@Gabrielle Someone can always reach out to Matthew Yglesias and ask him directly if he considers the debt limit suspension to be a special case of a debt limit raise, and if he says yes, then there will be absolutely no reason to keep this market opened for the rest of the year.

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Gabriellepredicted NO

@MayMeta Agreed, if he were to confirm either way then we could resolve early.

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Semiotic Rivalrypredicted NO

@Gabrielle Do these markets resolve based off Matt's judgement or Tomek's?

Gabrielle avatar
Gabriellepredicted NO

@SemioticRivalry I assumed Matt’s, but it’s up to Tomek.

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Tomek K 🟡predicted YES

@Gabrielle I would rather wait for the consensus. As I understand, the statutory debt ceiling was not raised - which still can be confirmed by ie. paying off some debt and ending the suspension, reverting back to old debt ceiling, right?

jack avatar
Jackbought Ṁ0 of YES

The way I look at it, suspension is equivalent to temporarily raising it to infinity for the next two years.

@itsTomekK There is no realistic world in which they would end the suspension early; and if they did, there's no particular reason to revert to the old debt ceiling rather than any other number.

SuperTaxGenius avatar
Super Tax Geniuspredicted NO

@itsTomekK I specifically bet more on this market because it did not include suspension.

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Christopher Randles

What happens on suspension?