[Manifold Plays Chess 3] Move 34: What will white play?
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Ṁ1823
resolved May 16
100%54%
bxa5
1.9%Other
19%
Rxc6+
4%
Rd7
4%
Re7+
4%
Rf7
0.6%
Kc3
0.0%
Rb7
4%
d4
4%
Ra7
4%
Rh7
0.3%
b5

What will white (Manifold) play in move 34?

Check the game here: https://lichess.org/GF9YULQP

The game so far: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. Nc3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Nxe4 d5 6. Bd3 dxe4 7. Rg1 Bf5 8. Bb5 exf3 9. Bxc6+ bxc6 10. Qxf3 Qd7 11. Qc3 f6 12. g4 Bxg4 13. Rxg4 h5 14. Re4 Qd5 15. Qf3 Rd8 16. d3 a6 17. b3 Qc5 18. Kd1 a5 19. Bb2 g6 20. Qxf6 Kd7 21. Rxe5 Qd6 22. Qxh8 Be7 23. Qg7 Rf8 24. Rxe7+ Qxe7 25. Qxe7+ Kxe7 26. Ba3+ Kf7 27. Bxf8 Kxf828. Kd2 Kf7 29. Re1 Kg7 30. Re7+ Kf6 31. Rxc7 h4 32. a4 g5 33 b4 Ke6

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For each response, the average probability in the last four hours before close is measured. With 75% probability, two moves will be randomly drawn, with weight proportional to those market probabilities. With 25% probabilities, three moves will be randomly drawn in the same way. Then for each of the two or three candidate moves, a conditional market is created. The average probability in the last 4 hour of the conditional markets will be measured. The move with higher average probability will be chosen.

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@harfe your random number is: 537237526

Salt: BTVyIVCt4BlujpEM1QA8, round: 2957264 (signature 99e1b843c746adff805d7ceed178a915282d24bdb81ae0b8a5e0a7a0d69ae19806fa5eec34c4318af5245dd487ada7e9190de7c12ebe52fe6c419fd143afb2f8a28bb650e4c37ce33e1c2a39c119217e9fd8428d5a2f5dce111338856d168468)

@FairlyRandom bxa5, Rf7

@harfe you asked for a random integer between 1 and 999999918, inclusive. Coming up shortly!

Source: GitHub, previous round: 2957262 (latest), offset: 2, selected round: 2957264, salt: BTVyIVCt4BlujpEM1QA8.

@FairlyRandom 999999918

Moves by average probability:

0.454323 bxa5

0.206719 Rxc6+

0.046704 b5

0.044430 Rh7

0.044265 Ra7

0.044101 d4

0.044085 Re7+

0.043975 Rd7

0.043422 Rf7

0.006861 Kc3

0.000000 Rb7 (removed)

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pick a number between 1 and 999999918 (inclusive)

Outcomes by integer range:

[ 1-230364365] bxa5, Rxc6+

[230364366-278796535] bxa5, b5

[278796536-324829926] bxa5, Rh7

[324829927-370689671] bxa5, Ra7

[370689672-416377021] bxa5, d4

[416377022-462047403] bxa5, Re7+

[462047404-507601787] bxa5, Rd7

[507601788-552573865] bxa5, Rf7

[552573866-574497262] bxa5, Rxc6+, b5

[574497263-595301144] bxa5, Rxc6+, Rh7

[595301145-616024132] bxa5, Rxc6+, Ra7

[616024133-636666828] bxa5, Rxc6+, d4

[636666829-657301623] bxa5, Rxc6+, Re7+

[657301624-677882405] bxa5, Rxc6+, Rd7

[677882406-698192178] bxa5, Rxc6+, Rf7

[698192179-715707252] Rxc6+, b5

[715707253-732351059] Rxc6+, Rh7

[732351060-748931811] Rxc6+, Ra7

[748931812-765449964] Rxc6+, d4

[765449965-781961956] Rxc6+, Re7+

[781961956-999999918] other

Hash of the complete table:

9cb0a8d79942721a7e7362fd2b0475b4c006b21a12c07ee1983dffc885a13fb2

silly engines.. so we got our top 3 all are equally fast #11.

@deagol We will probably do better. I’m not that good at chess but I was getting mates in 8 from the previous position against Stockfish level 3.

@TobyBW oh yes these are worst case with perfect play from black

this one’s as fast as Rxc6+, one step behind the top two

oh wait, now that my engine learned of b5 it realized Rxc6+ isn’t a step behind after all, no need to move the rook on next move, 35. b5 does the job

this is as fast as bxa5, but somehow missed by engines 🤷‍♂️

🤪

Added a 3rd good move to hedge against the blunders that are being added lol

@jack found a couple better ones

34 bxa5 Kd6

35 Rh7

involves only 1 rook move before pawn queened.

Seems better than Rxc6+ which involves 2 moves other than advancing pawn to be queened

I think.

@ChristopherRandles no need to move the rook, 35. b5

After 35 b5 I was thinking 35 ... g4 and you can't advance the pawn but if you have consulted engines perhaps this doesn't matter in some way because Rc4 is helpful after pawn has queened. The engines are more likely to be right than me,

@ChristopherRandles Right, I saw that too so there the engine seemed stuck at some depth, a few minutes thinking, and suddenly BAM! 36. d4! it found a mate in #11. It took me a while to understand what was going on, how this different pawn advance could match the other more obvious lines. But yeah definitely an “engine move”

@deagol “mate in 11” counting from before our current move 34, so #8 from the position after:

  1. Rxc6+ Kd7

  2. b5 g4

  3. d4! (#8)

But maybe we should avoid this, much riskier as a blunder on a critical move to kill that advancing g pawn could throw the game.

finally the engines see the light

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