Please resolve

U closed but didnt resolve @aimeamie

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We need you to close this for the ranking, come on!

Resolve @aimeamie

Resolves YES @aimeamie

As of June, the biggest individual bet win on this site was on Musk following through on something he said repeatedly that he would do. I’m not being against the big idiot.

Edit: on a resolved, predictive market, there were bigger ones on WvM and other non-predictive.

@Noit this is just for end of August, I give it 50/50 he makes this change eventually.

I'm confident he will do nothing, but I expect he is referring specifically to the feature that people you block can't see your tweets, if just that feature was removed how would it resolve?

If they add a new level of "Muteness" that exactly copies the features of the current "Block", will that resolve as "NO" ? Market description needs to be more detailed in what will resolve YES/NO

@Blomfilter Yes, levels of “muteness” resolved to No as the block feature as we currently know will be gone. Adding to description rn thank you!

@aimeamie great, as it stands, elon says that to view another persons tweets you can just switch accounts or view in incognito, so I'm going ahead with "NO" as the new block -> Mute evolution will allow people to no matter what, see a persons public tweets that are not protected. The only question is whether the team will have it rolled out before Sept 1st

@empathy2000 "Reader added context" continues to be the funniest feature on Twitter.

@empathy2000 Twitters definition of block may be different from apple’s. The mute feature could still count as blocking under apples guidelines.

@ShadowyZephyr Agreed. That's pretty much my logic for this market.

What if they make it a Blue (are they still calling it that?) only feature?

@Luca3f84 I did some digging, and a help page on Xitter calls their subscription service “X Premium”, though it’s just shortened to “Premium” in many places.

@Luca3f84 Resolves to Yes as the feature still exists albeit underneath a paywall.

Dear lord. Blocking people was the only thing that ever made Twitter so much as usable for me as an openly trans person. Is he actively trying to destroy the platform?

@evergreenemily Would you consider Mastodon as an alternative if the feature of no blocking is set up ?

@nlhm I've already bailed on Twitter at this point - tbh, I'm mostly done with social media. The only "social media" I really use now are Manifold, AOTY, Discord, and sometimes Tumblr.

@evergreenemily it's so funny to me that a billionaire trying to buy public opinion caused a resurgence on an unrelated site that was on long term life support (tumblr)

@Stralor Tumblr Wins By Doing Absolutely Nothing

@evergreenemily Tbh I support removing the ability to censor others from your response threads. If you want to hide their responses so you don't have to read them, that's okay, but other people should be able to.

Also I think this is overvalued considering Elon has gone through with a lot of his plans even when they were, frankly, ridiculous. Out of the things he's said he would do he has delivered most of them.

He even stepped down as CEO when people thought he wouldn't.

@ShadowyZephyr I wouldn't want my followers to see the amount of slurs I'd be getting called in the replies of every tweet.*

*not hyperbole; I had to block more than 20 people for calling me slurs last time I used Twitter actively around 2019. It's probably gotten significantly worse since Musk took over.

@evergreenemily Ad hominem is one point at which blocking replies might help, but if that feature exists people will abuse it to stifle discussion. Unfortunately I don't think there's a way to implement it that doesn't carry significant risk of censorship. I think it does more harm than good, since, if your followers actually care and aren't just trolls, they will also hide the messages of the people calling you slurs.



For example, if you could block replies to your comments on Manifold, what might happen? Well, people who bet one way will block people who disagree with them, so the value of investments goes up. Or they might do the opposite, make it look like everyone disagrees with them, so they can buy shares at a lower price. Twitter too is branding itself as "what's happening." If you want to know what's happening, people shouldn't be able to manipulate the narrative.

@ShadowyZephyr I'm personally in favor of the existence of a strong blocking system - it may stifle discussion, but I'd argue Twitter is an awful place for discussion regardless. I'm also not interested in having a "discussion" with people who are calling me slurs or saying they want me dead - they're not going to listen to anything I have to say anyways.

Also, I'm pretty sure I can block replies from people on Manifold. I have a few people blocked* - mainly for having right-wing politics or being assholes in comment sections - and I don't think any of them can reply to my comments. This has not stifled discussion on my markets, since I only block people who A: treat no one with respect or B: are very likely to treat me specifically as a trans person with disrespect/hatefulness. I'm here for productive, respectful discussions, not slur-slinging contests.

*if someone is able to like...scan the API to see how many accounts I have blocked, it'll probably show up as like 50+. Most of those are Mark Ingraham alt accounts.

@ShadowyZephyr If someone blocks others for bad reasons, then maybe their Tweets aren’t worth reading, and not allowing blocks won’t change that.

Sure, maybe blocking does actually constitute censorship in some cases; e.g. a high ranking politician blocking people they don’t like (a certain President did this) probably fits the bill. But most people don’t have the luxury of an entire secret service team protecting them, and blocking people helps reduce the spread of e.g. doxing Tweets (or so I’ve heard.)

IMO, most non-politicians deserve a block button.

@nottelling2ccc If civil then no reason to block even if there is a divergent opinion imo. Insulting someone, even a politician should normally not be allowed imo, only if the politician (or a person) has clearly* a hate speech (and alike reasons).

*I know it is "clearly" that's can be difficult to interpret in my sentence 🤔

@nottelling2ccc How would you know they're blocking people who disagree with them, though? They'll just block anyone who points it out. Flat earth youtubers did this to keep their comment section clean, they'd block everyone who disagreed and tried to point out facts that obliterate their argument.

@ShadowyZephyr as a (shameful) twitter user, community notes exist for that purpose

and blocking someone does not remove their previous replies; you can "hide" them, but that only moves them to another section and doesn't delete them outright