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Title of the movie spoken within "The Odyssey"?
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resolved Jul 17
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  • Resolves YES if the word "odyssey" is said at any point during Christopher Nolan's upcoming "The Odyssey" movie. Resolves NO otherwise.

  • What matters is the word "odyssey". The full title of the movie is generally stylized as "The Odyssey", but I'm ignoring the leading "The" for the purposes of this question. "An odyssey", "the odyssey", or etc would all count.

  • The word needs to be spoken within the film (not just shown on screen).

  • The name "Odysseus" does not count—that's a related name, not the word itself.

  • Other forms of the same word like the plural "odysseys" would count.

hat tip to the retired @mattyb for the idea.

  • Update 2026-07-13 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): - Mid or post-credits scenes count as part of the movie

    • Non-diegetic song lyrics (e.g., a song playing over the credits) do not count

    • Diegetic songs (e.g., characters singing around a campfire) do count

  • Update 2026-07-16 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has seen the movie and did not hear the word "odyssey". They plan to resolve NO unless someone can point out an instance they missed.

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Oh my god. I cried four times. You expect to cry at the Argos scene but uh this is Nolan's best movie, I think

I have seen the movie. I did not hear the word. I plan to resolve NO tmrw, unless anyone else can point out an instance I missed

@Ziddletwix good movie btw!

Well?

@MachiNi it’s 4pm PT

(I am in no rush to resolve but in this case I have tickets opening night so resolution will be prompt)

@Ziddletwix oh sorry I didn’t mean to ping you, I was just wondering if anyone had heard it

What was that chart spike?

@Quroe Matt Damon says "odd, I see" at 2:15:38, which was garbled due to Nolan's audio mixing

@BrendanFinan Wait, why haven't you bet this market to the floor or ceiling yet, then?

Fun fact that Emily Wilson points out that surprised me- at no point in The Odyssey does anyone ever read or write anything at all.

They interpret dreams, they cast lots, they do many recognizable things. But it's just so old that no character- despite almost all being nobility- knows how to read.

Crazy.

bought Ṁ250 NO

@TiredCliche there was essentially no writing during the Greek dark ages during which the Odyssey would have been compiled orally, in the centuries following the Trojan war, and even during the times the Odyssey describes, writing was mostly an administrative scribal tradition that would have been beneath the characters

@TiredCliche in particular, there is scant evidence of, say, written literature among the Greeks during the Mycenaean, so it's unclear what they would have been reading, if they were to read. Palace records? Trade shipments?

bought Ṁ7 YES

"Poor man! Why does enraged Poseidon create an odyssey of pain for you?" - Ino, the White Goddess, ch. 5, line 340, trans. Emily Wilson.

@TiredCliche she wrote that?! Embarrassing...

@AhronMaline There's a footnote: "The original uses a verb that puns on our hero's name: odysat', which means "he hated" or "he was angry at.""

If true, it appears that Homer himself may have invented the "say that again" tradition

bought Ṁ8 NO

@TiredCliche Kline translates the same line as "Poor wretch, why has Poseidon, the Earth-Shaker, dealt you such fierce suffering, sowing the seed of endless misery for you?" I prefer Wilson's version here but I also can't read archaic Greek.

@TiredCliche I don’t have the book near me but I think it’s Ino not Athena who pronounces those words.

@AhronMaline Why is that embarrassing? It’s brilliant.

@MachiNi You are right, I apologize. I misremembered it. Thank you

bought Ṁ100 NO

@TiredCliche that’s alright. But it matters because as far as I can tell Ino does not appear in the movie.

@MachiNi It totally matters! I'm legit ashamed of my mistake, movie or not. I strive for accuracy, and I only read this passage today. I later transcribed the passage, but I didn't go back to double-check who said it. I should have, and I didn't.

And now I ask you to forgive me,

I pour a glass of wine out for the gods,

those ever-changing gods who cursed Odysseus.

Him shaken, far from home, and afraid.

@MachiNi the word means "a long and troubled journey like the one described in the Odyssey". It's absurd for a character to refer by name to the story they're in! Plus it isn't in fact a long and troubled journey like the one described in the Odyssey; it is the original

@TiredCliche Okay that does make it much better. I still dislike it, because "odyssey" is a literal reference & not just a pun, but I can see the upside too

@AhronMaline they also didn’t speak English