Will the Sun not not .... not explode on April 15, 2023, where the number of "not"s is equal to Σ(5)?
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Σ is the busy beaver function.

This resolves as soon as we find out what both the question and the answer are.

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Seems that this market might actually be able to resolve within a year or two! Apparently, there is an avenue towards a proof that the remaining candidates don't halt.

bought Ṁ10 of YES

Ok people have really overvalued NO here now. This bing-chat answer states only that it's AROUND 4098, and if it is even ± 1 difference it could be as well odd as even.

bought Ṁ30 of NO

@Swordfish42 Might be wrong, but I thought that 4098 was the best known machine, and all the other ones are suspected to not halt (and have been run for a gazillion iterations), but it’s technically unproven - meaning it’s highly likely that it’s 4098, but the hard part is a proof. But it won’t be like 4099, the 4098 number is exact.

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@Conflux (by “the other ones” I mean those that could beat the 4098 one)

@Conflux That is correct according to Wikipedia:

The current (as of 2023) 5-state busy beaver champion produces 4098 1s, using 47176870 steps (discovered by Heiner Marxen and Jürgen Buntrock in 1989), but there remain many machines with non-regular behavior which are believed to never halt, but which have not been proven to run infinitely.

@Swordfish42 Bing Chat isn't exactly correct there. The value is known to be at least 4098, not around 4098. If it's not exactly 4098, it could be almost anything and is probably much larger than 4098.

Thus, if the current "champion" machine isn't a busy beaver, there is basically a 50/50 shot of Σ(5) being even. So, if we let P be our degree of confidence that Σ(5)=4098, the "probability" (in the sense of our degree on confidence based on the information we have, not a strict mathematical sense) that Σ(5) is even is P+(1-P)/2=(1+P)/2. This market currently estimates a probability of 78% that Σ(5) is even (assuming a 100% probability that the Sun won't explode on April 15th). That means that P is estimated to be 56%.

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@JosephNoonan Well, you also have to factor in discount rates, since there’s a good chance Busy Beaver 5 isn’t solved anytime soon. I think there’s probably a >90% chance that 4098 is correct.

bought Ṁ10 of NO

Asked bing chat AI:
"The output of the busy beaver function when n = 5 is not known exactly, but it is estimated to be around 4098 (1). This means that a 5-state Turing machine with a two-symbol alphabet can print at most 4098 1s on an initially blank tape before halting. The exact value of the busy beaver function for n = 5 has not been found yet because it requires checking all possible 5-state Turing machines, which is a very large number. Some researchers believe that it may be possible to find the exact value for n = 5 with more efficient algorithms and hardware, but others doubt that it will ever be computed2. The busy beaver function is uncomputable in general, which means that there is no algorithm that can calculate it for any given n. For n = 6 and higher, the busy beaver function grows so fast that it exceeds any computable function and any physical limit. For example, if we used one atom for each 1 that a busy beaver prints on the tape, then for n = 6 we would fill the whole universe1! Therefore, finding the exact value of the busy beaver function for n = 6 or higher is not only a resource problem but also a theory problem."

predicts NO

@Swordfish42 So current best prediction seems to be an even number, it's not much but it's worth 10M

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