Will the US permit Ukraine to strike into Russia before 2025
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As far as I can tell, Ukraine have been given vague permissions but still aren't allowed to strike air bases. The question is whether they get some kind of minimal viable permission.

Feel free to discuss in the comments to help us figure out what the resolution is.

Currently I'm gonna say, "are they allowed to strike military planes and airbases anywhere in russia."

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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-26-2024

I think this resolves YES now. @NathanpmYoung

"US National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby confirmed Ukraine's usage of US-provided ATACMS against Russia amid official Russian confirmation of recent Ukrainian ATACMS strikes."

"The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) acknowledged on November 26 that Ukrainian forces recently struck military objects in Kursk Oblast.[11] The MoD stated that Ukrainian forces launched five ATACMS on November 23, damaging an S-400 air defense radar system in Lotarevka (northwest of Kursk City), and eight ATACMS on November 25, damaging infrastructure facilities and injuring military personnel in the Khalino Airfield."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/us/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-atacms-missiles.html
"President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia, U.S. officials said."
"The officials said that while the Ukrainians were likely to use the missiles first against Russian and North Korean troops that threaten Ukrainian forces in Kursk, Mr. Biden could authorize them to use the weapons elsewhere."

I would resolve the question "Yes" if the US allows to use ATACMS in 300km range zone (grey area). I think it's the main restriction now. @NathanpmYoung

Another question. What types of weapons exactly are we talking about? Do Drones count?

Can you clarify if this covers US manufactured weapons including those that have been on paper provided to Ukraine by other countries, such as UK or France; or is the question referring to US provided weapons.

Hasn't this already happened with the Kursk offensive? I think Ukraine today/yesterday confirmed allies are 'indirectly' involved; they would have had to have approved, and probably providing intel too, on targets etc

Alternatively, we could do something like this

"If I saw strategic hard targets deep inside r*ssia being blown up using foreign missiles, such as factories, bridges, etc"

From https://twitter.com/Tame_E_Coyote

Looking at some articles like this:

https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2024/07/02/how-us-strike-curbs-for-ukraine-morphed-from-caveats-to-common-sense/

it appears the restrictions are on

  1. using US weapons

  2. outside specified areas

So you would accept any broadening at all of the areas where US weapons may be used?

Yes, what do you think the important bit is.

How about: either the US or Ukraine specifically says that Ukraine is permitted to use US weapons to strike a larger area than previously, or areas that were previously off limits, of any kind.

So, basically anything along the lines of "they are now permitted to ..." would qualify.

Clarification needed: to some extent this already happened after the Kharkiv oblast offensive began this year

Sure though I don't think that's enough for them, right?

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