I am making my own rating of countries. Where would I prefer to end up living?
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10
192
Oct 31
42%
Other
12%
Netherlands
9%
Montenegro
6%
Luxembourg
3%
Denmark
3%
Australia
3%
Germany
3%
USA
3%
Norway
2%
Canada
2%
Japan
2%
Sweden
1.9%
Finland
1.8%
Argentina
1.6%
Austria
1.2%
UK
1.1%
France
1.1%
Switzerland

After the market closure, the best country will resolve 100%.

I expect there to be around 20-30 countries at the closure.

I will try to take into account everything that I will learn about countries: political direction, climate, traditions, economy, education and so on - everything weighted by my own preference.

At the moment of market creation I value school education most, i want a place to raise children, but a combination of other pluses can easily outweight.

Countries, that i consider, will be added gradually. I will not add obviously bad variants like North Korea, only those for which I have an interest or opportunity.

I do not have a rating system formed yet. Likely it will evolve through time.

Any info is welcome. I will engage in discussions. By giving me valuable info/links you can affect the resolution of this market (or just give me a friendly help).

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I am not even half way through collecting info, let alone sorting. Prices are not helpful yet. Have to move the closing.

Do you like international cities? If you want to be in the metropole, then we’re really only left with a few options once we discount the USA and Japan.

If so, off the top of my head you could pick London, Singapore, Hong Kong, or Sydney. The downside is all can get pretty hot. All have a precedence based legal system (but I’m not sure why that’s an issue for you).

Can we know a bit more about your lifestyle preferences and career direction?

I do not understand what is international city. Does that mean "there is a lot of foreigners"? I do not think such parameter bothers me.

I have lived in a megapolis for most of my life and i am not nostalgic about it (the only thing i miss is 24/7 groceries). I have a slight preference towards small towns.

Lifestyle: I do not like "partying places" and prefer to spend time in calm and safe environments.

I am not hunting for a career. I am currently searching for a software developer position, but in the long term i can imagine myself as anybody: for example working in a small bakery. Happiness for me does not depend on the career and status.

The precedence legal system by default engraves all the mistakes that happen, while continental legal system makes sure that all cases are independent: mistake and irrational conclusion in one of them will not become a rule. Occasional stupidity of verdicts is impossible to avoid, so at least the consequences are minimised.

Also in english system the quality of a lawyer and his demagogy heavily impacts the outcome, this is painful to read about in the news. The system creates a paper mess: all situations are unique, yet both sides try to use emotions and language tricks to pull up some old case (instead of independent reasoning) like if it was an identical, and the amount of precedences and things to track only grows, contradictions accumulate, that is absurd, not sustainable, not consistent. No system is perfect, but precedence is far behind the continental in my ranking. (Religious legal system is the worst, but those countries did not make it into the candidates)

Well plenty of good "small town" feeling capital cities on this list! Copenhagen is particularly cozy from my exp, as are many Northern European cities.

An "international city" generally has:

  • (yep) varied foreigners, both tourists and immigrants

  • high English fluency

  • lots of business opportunity, more service and tech sector presence (as opposed to agricultural or industrial)

  • good access for travel (international airport + probably trains or major port)

  • is usually a big capital or otherwise major and well-known city of economic import

I don’t like japan's work culture (overwork hours) and sexualiasation.

Learned today about adverse possession and squatters... USA is gaining the last place in my rating. Just a stupid law system and thus stupid laws.

Police misconduct, shootings, drugs, karens. THE worst place in the list so far.

adverse possession is a thing in many countries and much less often granted in the US than other places. it was a big deal historically (~1800s)

but yeah, US should be near the bottom of the list, if just for instability

@KongoLandwalker that law comes from england. It's not really applicable anymore

@Stralor sorry, but why would i care it is in "many countries"? That fact doesn't change anything.

The question should be whether it is the case in the countries of this market. That could slightly pull some country down.

um when I say many I mean: almost all countries have some form of squatter's rights.

https://rightsbuddy.com/comparative-analysis-of-squatter-laws-in-different-countries/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting

if this is a big deal for you I'd dig up the legal case in each of the countries you've listed (and local jurisdictions of interest?). I personally can't imagine why it would be, but I'm sure you have your reasons 🫣

to note: basically all Western countries have something like adverse possession in place, though not all grant eventual ownership

Thanks for the rightbuddy link. I find that possession law as a red sign: government, instead of solving homelessness problem, creates additional problems for another part of society.

Some laws are litmus test for me, i care about them even if they might never touch me directly.

so what's interesting about adverse possession from my perspective is that it's inherently an anti-nobility law. the argument is that owners of unused vast tracts of land or abandoned buildings are doing a "disservice" to society by hoarding and wasting a critical limited resource. in the short term, squatters don't necessarily solve this, but, as acknowledged in these laws, in the long term they tend to treat a place as their home and increase the value of the space they occupy by taking care of it. under this philosophy, it's better to have an owner that contributes and builds

There is another system, which does not incentivise trespassing/stealing: tax on unused land.

Sorry to break it to ya, Bub, but nobody owns anything in absolute terms. No matter how big the bad-ass, someone can always take away what they have. If nobody else does, Time, the Destroyer of Worlds will. Adverse posession goes back at least to Roman times, and was intended to keep the land productive.

No idea what you try to break, Jack, your message contains 0 relevant information. It assumes I have a concept of absolute property, it makes an irrelevant reference to "time destroying worlds".

Rule of thumb: further in the past thing originates, worse it fits the modern world.

If you use "look how old it is" card then why not take egiptian traditions or even fight for caves with sticks. What a disfunctional card to play.

P.S. let's wait till mentioned Time also destroys some stupid laws from the past?

:( site is currently crashing for me specifically on this market. I'll be back to place more bets soon (hopefully)

I have added every country i will rank and moved the resolution closer, to August 15.

China.

Insanely beautiful nature. Good public health policies. Friendly people.

Difficult language. No freedom of speech. Isolated internet. Authoritarian. I think is likely to eventually start a military expansion, like Russia did.

No even going to add to the rating.

About USA. Looks like wages are growing slower than property prices.

It is a car oriented hell. All infrastructure prioritises expansion for new parkings and lines.

High amount of suburbs (inefficient use of space) increases dependency on cars.

Majority of internet-using republicans i witnessed cannot communicate without toxicity.

Looks like usa is an origin of flatearth/antivax and other conspiracies and irrational movements.

Personal firearms popularity is a huge negative.

Looks like a can remember only one positive thing about it: variance in nature, different climate zones.

Um what languages do you speak, what counties do you the the right to work, what is your job?

Important, this market is to define a LONGterm direction. Like, where I would like to end up in 10-15 years.

I would say my current status does not narrow down the possibilities much: I am willing to learn the language and to get permissions to work in the country i will choose.

I am currently an international student in europe, learning mathematical modeling and programming. I speak english, understand 4 slavic languages, and am learning german. But i do not think any of that is relevant to evaluate countries.

My worldview will affect the rating in much higher degree.

I value free healthcare and education, even if it means higher taxes. Would like to work eith anything related to science and research.

I value digitalisation, countries where people do not get stuck with old technologies and are willing to progress.

I do not like precedence law system. Prefer cool climate.