In June of 2023, will @Mira be more famous on Manifold than @Spindle?
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Spindle has long been the most recognizable of Manifolders, having built a considerable cult of personality around themselves.

Recently a new challenger has appeared. Investing tens of thousands of mana into an obviously losing position, Mira has taken the hearts and minds of the Manifold community by storm. Will their flame peter out like a dying candle? Or will it shine brightly through eons to come?

At the end of June, who will be more known, loved, or feared?

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predicted NO

Thoughts?

predicted YES

@IsaacKing I think Mira was by far the most famous. Most people who joined Manifold post-"The Market" probably don't even know who Spindle is, since that's the last time he was active.

@JosephNoonan I can confirm that's true. I know who Mira is, but I have no idea who Spindle is.

bought Ṁ10 of YES

How will you judge who is more loved/feared? I definitely think about Mira more - I swear to God she is throwing money away (at a level I can't justify telling myself is for no reason) in the "Does GPT-4 have >1,000,000 parameters" market.

predicted NO

@RobertCousineau It's entirely subjective. Maybe I'll run a vote.

bought Ṁ0 of YES

@IsaacKing sounds good. If you were to resolve it subjectively today, (implicit "if it is information you are willing to divulge") how would you resolve?

predicted NO

@RobertCousineau Hmm. I think Spindle is more infamous. They recently inspired a large push on Conflux's "The Market", and people write bots designed specifically to bet against Spindle.

Mira on the other hand has transitioned to trying to actually turn a profit. Boooooooring.

predicted YES

@RobertCousineau If that GPT market was for real money, you would definitely feel fear.

@IsaacKing that's fair and explains my false prediction - I try to avoid betting on/paying attention to self resolving markets (I lost 400 on April fools day betting on one as I thought it was truly "play" play money </3, #neveragain).

@Mira don't worry, I arguably have more emotional attachment to internet points than real money.

bought Ṁ100 of NO

@IsaacKing how does this resolve now that the Mira account is deleted

predicted NO

@firstuserhere They could always return!

predicted NO

@IsaacKing oh i didn't know that you could do that with manifold markets account! (Assuming that the question is about the Mira account, and not the same person under a different account)

predicted NO

@firstuserhere I don't know exactly how deleted accounts work, but even if it's not possible at the moment, Manifold features are changing all the time, so it could easily become possible in the future. I expect if Mira wanted to get their old username back, they could just ask the Manifold devs and they'd probably accomodate that request.

As for whether I'd count Mira coming back under a different username, hmm. As long as they express the a similar personality on the site I think I should count that.

predicted YES

@IsaacKing Maybe Mira will become a ghost and start haunting people when they least expect it.

sold Ṁ97 of NO

@Mira oh lol definitely surprised me when i saw the notification

predicted YES

Also @IsaacKing is that a typo in the market description?

losing -> winning, right?

predicted NO

@MattCWilson Sadly no. :'(

bought Ṁ15 of YES

Admittedly I’m only like a week and a half old around here, so I’m ignorant of (and thus unbiased? heh) about past versus present fame.

That said, all the fun and excitement seems to be going down in the 69% market the past few days. On top of that, @Mira has been a lot more frequent, and funny, in comments all over the site. So, speaking as a newb, @Spindle hasn’t shown up in nearly the same way. If we were calling it today, imo it’s no contest.

predicted NO

@MattCWilson Yeah, but that's not a fair comparison, anyone new making a splash will tend to take attention away from others. This market is about whether that popularity will be maintained.

Ginger. Win’s already.