Will there be a doping-allowed olympics (with participants from >70 countries) before or during the year 2050?
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I'm assuming this market is inspired by Aron D’Souzas plan to create "Enhanced Games"? I don't believe that a concept like that could be successful enough to attract athletes from 70+ nations.
But I'm wondering how you mean this. The term doping, according to the definitions I know, implies illegality. What's legal or not is defined by sporting orgs like the IOC and WADA.
So what we're specifically betting on here, is a parallel sporting event, similar to the Olympic Games, with athletes from 70+ nations, that has significantly more liberal guidelines regarding performance enhancing medical measures, compared to the official IOC/WADA guidelines of the time. Both events and both rulebooks have to exist at the same time.
If the Olympic Games are no longer held, or if merely the rules for the Olympic Games are made more liberal with regard to performance-enhancing measures, this cannot be sufficient for a YES resolution. Because if something's legal, it's not doping. My point is, you need two different rule books to compare, one of which should be the official IOC/WADA one.
Do you agree? I may have gotten lost in semantics here. 😂
@redcat "I'm assuming this market is inspired by Aron D’Souzas plan to create "Enhanced Games"?"
I'm assuming Aron D’Souzas plan to create "Enhanced Games" is inspired by this market?
"I don't believe that a concept like that could be successful enough to attract athletes from 70+ nations."
idk, i'm bullish, I think there is a large portion of athletes are currently cut out of competative sports and are angry because even if they wanted to compete naturally it would be against others who were not
also a bunch of athletes don't get paid, if they can fix this, they will also be able to attract the best people
audience already is annoyed at cheaters in natural games. while there would be a slightly different audience for it initally, it could easily normalise more over time especially with younger gen
if they do their documentary well then young sports people will watch to see how it can be done in a safe way etc
@GeorgeVii Ah... interesting that you started it before. Where did you get the idea, do you remember?
You write of a "large portion of athletes". But who are these athletes? And who are the people who want to see such an event? Which sponsors want to participate in such an event?
The people who are campaigning for it are the Peter Thiels of this world, and hardly anyone takes their outlandish übermensch fantasies seriously any more. They are multimillionaires and billionaires who treat athletes like expensive racehorses. They couldn't care less about the health of these athletes or the history and integrity of the sport. It's just another bullshit project after other ideas like the private floating island, or efforts to achieve "immortality" have gone nowhere. But we'll see.
I'd be curious to know the reasoning behind betting on YES here.
@NicoDelon hmm.
perhaps 50 events?
Am open to suggestions tho
(Framing as events cos - is athletics even one sport?)
Ah, yeah i think my thought at the time wasn't that it should be organised by whatever official olympics org is. Just that it be a comparable event (see constraint: >70 countires).
Also see title is "Doping-Allowed Olympics" rather than "Doping-Allowed" Olympics. Think this implies doesn't have to be official olympics, though could be clearer. Thanks for asking.
@GeorgeVii yes. It's just a major resolution risk because people may complain it meets the performance requirements but has another name so they'll argue for NO