As a new user, this is very confusing to have the ability to buy “no” on a clearly yes/no outcome, only to learn that the market will never resolve to no.

@Ruku It's confusing to all the users. The correct interpretation on this market is "which day will bitcoin reach $110,000 conditional on reaching $110,000 by June 26". There are 3 possible resolutions for each option: YES, NO, or N/A. It is likely all options will N/A here if the conditional isn't met. Market probabilities represent p(YES) / [p(YES) + p(NO)]. So the June 26 option should be at 100%. It helps if you know that on this type of market the creator is not allowed to resolve every option NO.

Ok I must be missing some weird mana loans or laundering strategy or something. These are not newbies, so all surely know these bets can't payoff, and however small the risk of losing, I can't think of a good reason to take it. Can someone explain?

@deagol doesn’t make sense, it will most likely be n/a

@DanielNielsenIC50 yup, my profits 💸

@deagol I thought it would resolve NO rather than N/A.

@skibdi Lol, I didn't notice that in the description until I ready your post. What is the point of betting when a YES bet cannot lose money?

@DanielNielsenIC50 pls n/a thx

@Bandors Exactly, seems like market manipulation or something. @mods please look into this. I would love to have my 9 mana back lol!

@skibdi wow, got your tin foil hat? this was always in the description, discussed in comments right from the beginning, and even acknowledged and clarified by an excellent mod such as @Gabrielle.

you'll get your mana back soon enough but instead of going around making baseless accusations you might wanna take some responsibility for your mistake, next time check descriptions and comments before casually betting on an impossible outcome.

@deagol What's the point of betting on a market if you can't lose your money? Seems pretty counter-intuitive to me. Don't you think so? I don't want to hurl accusations but the simple matter is that most people (including me) don't read descriptions or terms of service and such.

If people did interpret it the wrong way, it should be alarmingly clear that a market cannot resolve in a certain way. Heck, why do you even have a option to bet on if it can't resolve that way.

@skibdi what are you talking about? you definitely could lose money up to 5h ago, if BTC had hit 110k.

@skibdi i would've profited almost 3k mana if it hit today, but as of yesterday i could've lost like 15k if it hit it before today. my advice is always read the fine print, never bet blindly. there's so many other "tricky" markets here, including outright fraud and manipulation. this isn't one of them.

PSA for new @traders here: June 26 cannot resolve NO. It could resolve YES (long shot) or N/A. All other options cannot resolve YES, only NO (long shot) or N/A. It's always good practice to read the description.

if none of these happens,all of them will resolve no right?

@Mete

“If Bitcoin's price does not reach $110,000 by the market's end date, the market will resolve as "N/A."”

@Mete can i ask what's the strategy here? you got only 45 min for BTC to get to 110k and your NO shares to payout. After that, the last option can't resolve NO, but it might resolve YES over the next 24h.

@DanielNielsenIC50 one more clarification, the description states the price must hit on a daily closing basis, i.e. an intraday hit that doesn't hold by the close wouldn't count. correct? forgive me for being such an exacting prick.

@deagol I think that is actually an excellent point.

I should've been more precise about this.

@mods is there a way to include an "Other" option here? Otherwise I'm afraid this will most likely end up canceled.

@mods @DanielNielsenIC50 ok I guess it could get fixed if the last option was "June 26 or later" but not sure if editing answers is possible with this new market type, and even if it were, it impacts the bets already made under a different meaning.

@deagol Why should anything be changed? The description seems pretty clear. I've been trading under the assumption that it N/A's after the 26th.

I agree it's confusing though.

@deagol Adding an "Other" option retroactively is not possible unfortunately. We could change the text of the answer (though it wouldn't behave nicely with the market graph), but that would be changing the market pretty fundamentally. If you're interested in this question with that longer time range, I'd recommend making a new market.

@Gabrielle thanks, and agreed. can we at least get the close to next week?

@deagol no, but what is the meaning of betting no on any option, there's no way to profit off that. Please N/A

@100Anonymous Please create a new market with independent MC and just resolve like a megamarket on whether btc will hit 110k that day.

@100Anonymous You're welcome to create that market yourself

@Gabrielle I'll do so, can this market be N/Aed?

@Gabrielle

@100Anonymous Resolving N/A now would be a decision for the creator to make, moderators are not empowered to make decisions like that.

@Gabrielle alright then. pinging @deagol

@100Anonymous what? how does N/A now makes any sense? it could hit 110 today or tomorrow or on 3 other days and it'd resolve to that day, all the others to NO. And indeed I'd profit nicely modestly on all my NO bets. I'm surely not understanding your argument, can you explain further?

@Gabrielle Just to let you know I would consider an early N/A (now) by the creator as a misresolution, and I would request and expect @mods help to fix it.

@deagol Oops, I got what you're saying.

@100Anonymous i'll soften off my hand here as i can see my original strategy of ignoring the current probs and betting on the most likely future state is a bit disruptive and distorting the distribution. it'll all likely end up for nothing (N/A) anyway.