When will the FED pivot (lower interest rates)?
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FED pivot being any lowering of the target federal funds range (interest rates).

This market will resolve to the quarter that the Fed decides to decrease interest rates.


Resolves based on https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/openmarket.htm.

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@Sketchy this can resolve, thanks.

If they don't do it this week, it will be too late to help Harris, so I imagine they'd do it next year or later.

How so? They can cut in September, and are expected to.

They'll be cutting because inflation is approaching target - I doubt very much they want to favour a presidential candidate - but nonetheless this seems soon enough to potentially affect the election. Stock prices will rise, borrowing costs will start to drop, people will feel a bit richer - assuming the apparent soft-landing continues and there isn't a recession before then, as those tend to be a bummer.

Chris -- I left some orders on this market and a couple related ones to take some profits on these questions, in case you are looking to put more mana to work here.

Financial markets have 1.13 cuts priced for September. I'm not sure whether thats 99% chance of at least one cut at 14% chance of 50bp cut, or 95% chance of at least one cut and 19% chance of 50bp cut, but its up there somewhere.

From the CME FedWatch tool, it's currently 79.5% 25 bps and 20.5% 50 bps for September, and you can see all the other meetings implied probabilities.

Edit: take it with a grain of salt, as these do shift quickly and significantly.

Thanks -- I'm aware of this tool but I think it loses alot of its usability when the certainty gets quite high (in this case literally 100% chance of at least 1 cut).

I take it it's just some fancy financial math applied on prices of Fed Futures instruments, which of course are far from perfect, with the usual problems of financial derivatives, i.e. low liquidity, potential for manipulation, high fees, etc. As I said, take with healthy bucket of salt.

Financial market pricing 2.5% chance of July cut, 94.5% chance of September cut. This may overstate things slightly, because I suppose there is theoretically some chance of a 50bp or greater cut in September, but that seems pretty remote. Certainly, pricing higher than Manifold.

financial markets pricing 79% probability of a cut by 9/18 meeting

Q4 or never: christmas is coming, they need those numbers for election purposes. Amazon and the retail sector will throw a shitfit if they don't, but when everyone said they'd lower at the last three meetings, I said they'd raise or hold.

If anything they're gonna raise right before Q4, so they can say they lowered in Q4, when the net outcome will be a virtual hold.

Between deflationary bust and eye-gouging inflation, after the last three meetings which I called despite the market saying otherwise, we can safely say they'll choose inflation, hell they'll choose rationing under hyperinflation, before they choose to lower.

@traders a version by meeting instead of by quarter:

2024 FOMC Meeting

Those of you voting Q1 2024 ; Are you in the January meeting or the March meeting camp, for them to lower the rate?

@marktwse Nice, thanks for linking those!
Can I add your January 31st to my January Leaderboard ?

@SirCryptomind march, but I am just playing a discount to CME futures. I had a very strong hawkish bias over the last 2 years and it's hard to overcome that.

JPow admitted they are talking about cutting and absent any substantial shock to the upside, I'd expect inflation to continue to moderate

@MP I'm still sticking with my June or July for the first cut.

If it is June than we get 3 cuts (June/September/December).
If it is July, than we get 2 (July & November).

The stock market is crazy wrong I believe right now, it has a projection of 6 cuts in 2024 from CNBC Data from this past Friday.
Q2 may be possible. I just cant fathom anything for Q1 2024 unless it is to signal a possible recession after Q4 2023 data comes in.

@traders

SOURCE (Reuters)

"A March rate cut is premature and market's have priced in too quickly, says IBM's Gary Cohn"

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SOURCE (CNBC Mobile Alerts)

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