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Seems like this has happened? Who’s the holdout?

https://chatgpt.com/share/6950743a-b15c-8011-a824-a541d5ea5a0a

@Sketchy Without accounting for any other countervidence, just that prompt and response shows Stellantis as doing partial adoption starting next year, which would be sufficient for No.

@Sketchy But more importantly, the prompt response is framed as all Western manufacturers' policy re: North America. The market is about Western manufacturers generally, not just their NA policy. European manufacturers in Europe have not widely adopted Tesla's standard.

@Panfilo the market criteria is admittedly vague. I agree that if “adopt” means total rollout across all regions it’s a no. I took it to mean manufacturers “adopting” NACS into their standards in any capacity, but for sure that’s not explicit in the criteria either.

@Sketchy And I'd note that with Europe's population being about twice the US + Canada (and EVs being much rarer in Latin America), it is unlikely that a majority of the population lives in areas that have adopted the Tesla standards, in the west.

@Sketchy by adopting I understand that a car manufacturer started using NACS in at least one of their car or announced an upcoming car model with NACS support.

@Berg @Berg Okay, I've sold my position. You should leave much more detailed and clear descriptions in the future. Two years ago you said the EU needed to adopt the Tesla standard, which they have not as a body. I would argue for N/Aing this.

@Panfilo fwiw that is not how I interpret his comment below, I think he was saying that EU adoption is a different question to this one.

2026 or 2036?

@NivlacM I don't remember what I meant, but I guess better to go with the title

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Does this include charging station in Europe?

@OlegEterevsky this question is about car manufacturerers.

Charging stations in Europe are heavily regulated by the European Union, and the question in this case would instead be "will European union adopt Tesla charging standard"