What will be true of OpenAI’s open-weight model?
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better than o3-mini on FrontierMath (with tools)
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NO
Uses Beyer Teacher/Student distillation ala Gemma 3
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NO
Gets 1400+ Elo on lmarena.ai
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NO
Is at least a Vision-Language Model (ala PaliGemma)
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NO
Is at least an Image-Language Model (ala JanusPro or 4o)
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NO
The model is accessible to all users on the main chatgpt site
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NO
A base model is made accessible
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YES
Is a reasoning model
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NO
released in the month of July 2025
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NO
released in the month of June 2025
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NO
my friend Andromeda (who knows ab ai) thinks it unveils an impressive new architecture
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NO
At least 300B parameters
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NO
released in September, October, November, or December 2025
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NO
At least 120B Parameters
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YES
At least 70B parameters
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YES
Uses Mixture of Experts
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YES
At least 30B parameters
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YES
An instruct model is made accessible
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YES
At least 20B Parameters
Resolved
YES
MIT or Apache license

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  • Update 2025-08-05 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Regarding an answer that the model will be 120B:

    • The creator has indicated this will likely resolve based on the actual number of weights/parameters.

    • If a model is named something like 'gpt-oss-120B' but does not technically have 120 billion weights, this answer would likely resolve to NO.

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bought Ṁ2 YES

hasn't been evaluated on FrontierMath. If it is in the future ping me and i'll reresolve

whether it's 120B or not is kinda cursed tbh. Like there isn't 120B weights so probably NO, but it's literally called gpt-oss-120B

@Bayesian oh shit you're right it's 117B 🤦

"reasoning model" will be judged with reference to OpenAI documentation.

bought Ṁ10 YES

What’s the difference between image/language and vision/language?

bought Ṁ10 NO

@KJW_01294 I think image/language generates images whereas vision/language only takes them as input

I've chosen to bet on the market that references me, but assert that I will be truthful in my evaluation of it. To help others, I would have said no to Gemma 2/3, yes to PaliGemma, yes to DeepSeek-MoE, but no to DeepSeek V3 and DeepSeek R1

bought Ṁ10 YES

"parameters" means total parameters?

bought Ṁ30 NO

@JoshYou correct

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