My similar market, a lower goal 😅

Does a single individual trader that bets on 2 different questions of yours count as 2 unique traders?

@JamesBromley Yes

@chrisjbillington what would count as an non unique trader then?

@JamesBromley The same user making multiple trades on a single market. The total unique traders stat is just the sum of the individual markets' unique traders number.

@chrisjbillington a trader making multiple trades would never have counted as multiple traders, Unique or otherwise anyway surely? Why specify unique if the trader can count multiple times by engaging with multiple questions? Assuming this is the case then 1 person could fulfil the 40k "unique traders" if there was 40k questions to engage in and that really doesnt sit right. It should have said unique trades not traders

@JamesBromley Sure, I'm not sure why the "unique traders" lingo caught on, it doesn't appear to be actually used in the Manifold interface anywhere.

But I believe @BTE has confirmed below that the "traders" number on the questions tab of his profile is the one we are betting about, and it is the sum of traders on individual markets. He also has run markets like this before that refer to that number.

You have to read through the comments to realize the market is worded poorly

Manifold currently has 41,455 accounts total

edit: apologies, my unfamiliarity with the site misled me, a bit of poking around led me to the unique traders value on the user page. Sorry to ping you!

Original text: "My interpretation of this question was initially that the intent is to take the sum of the unique traders value per market across all his markets, meaning each account can be counted, potentially, as many times as there are markets."

@Brooster Ah! Yes that's almost definitely what was meant, I'm not going to argue with that. This is the number displayed on the Questions tab of one's profile, and @BTE is currently at 37k and on-trend for probably a little below 40k this month.

@chrisjbillington "a little below" can be a lot of motivation for someone with enough of a stake. I have so many markets open you (or anyone) could conceivably make this resolve YES without spending any mana just by placing limit orders at 1% for every market. I have literally 1,000 open markets right now.

@chrisjbillington in fact if anyone were inclined to do so I would happily share the trader bonuses. They are not the reason I am doing this. I am incentivizing traders to help me catch @IsaacKing before he gets back into doing his thing and roadrunners away pedal to the metal.

is this allowed?

@jacksonpolack Yeah I suspect not. You'll have to keep your bonuses @BTE, traders will have to be content with their profits here if they spam your markets. Which also might not be allowed, but I suspect it is.

@chrisjbillington It shouldn’t be okay if they literally spend $0. But wouldn’t that be me manipulating myself really?

@BTE I don't follow, could you rephrase?

@chrisjbillington But if they were to spend $10 on each market and I gave them back say 2.50 then what’s the big deal? Why have the managram as opposed to the manalink if not to bring transparency to such activity?

Last season I resolved the previous version of this market yes for the meme but BTE was nice enough to send me some mana as well once he saw what I was doing. I don't think that broke any rules.

@Joshua We did not because I did it spontaneously. No quid pro quo. But I don’t think it should matter. I feel obligated to do it now because i did it spontaneously then honestly.

@Joshua I am pretty sure I noticed what you were up to and encouraged you to continue. Or something like that.

Yeah that was good fun. If I go and make this one resolve yes I don't expect the same though. And honestly I'm planning to be a free rider and let someone else do it this time 😅

@Joshua You probably can’t because you did the last one already. You spent your bullet my man!

@Joshua Unless I create another thousand markets. 🧐

@BTE But isn't this unique traders? This would only count as 1 trader unless I have a massive misunderstanding of the "unique" part of this whole thing

@Kelvin the metric is the sum over all markets of per-market unique traders. So a trader who trades in two markets counts for two.

@chrisjbillington Well then that changes things a lot. My understanding it was unique traders for the profile rather than per market 🤣

@Kelvin Per market for sure

@BTE Don't know what got you the +3% per week displayed on your profile or if it is a glitch, but this has clearly not continued. Gonna take at least two people betting on all your markets to rig this.