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IT IS DONE!!!

@strutheo thank you to everyone who aided my silly little quest. i certainly didnt expect it to happen this fast, but it became possible through a confluence of fates and friendships. a special shout out to my 20 forefathers who made this site the fun place it is today, and are role models to myself all future creators. i await the next challenger at the top of the mountain 🐲

@strutheo /strutheo/who-will-slay-me-on-the-creator-lea

LESS THAN 2000 BETWEEN! DOWN TO THE WIRE!

One month left, and the gap has closed to ~2000.

I think Chris has been catching up by around 500 per week, so it's going to be very close.

@Nightsquared arb with https://manifold.markets/strutheo/will-i-slay-all-20-top-creators-by

19/20 !!!

Less than 3k until 19th slay

only ~10k more traders to go...

Why The top guy was banned?

"abusing a mana-printing exploit"

https://manifold.markets/IsaacKing/will-btes-secret-plan-work#x5aqw9f39t

hit 50k!

went up about ~3k traders in the last 10 days. but isaac and bte are still going up too. this could come down to the wire

We can't let Isaac get too many trading fees or he'll beat me in Leagues

/Mich/will-strutheo-slay-all-top-20-creat

eighteen

top 3 on 180th day

I think the pivot has basically killed off all [add responses] markets overnight. No one will want to add responses to them when it costs 250 mana. What's your plan to make it to the top spot regardless?

i'm going into the desert to meditate

@PlasmaBallin So I see this as somewhat true, but also if you won't add responses for 250 mana, why would you create your own markets where it costs 250 mana to create them? Has it just killed off all markets?

i dont think mc answers even counted btw, it just goes off the unique traders at the top of the market

@Fedor The pivot is expected by many, including me and plasma I think, to kill off most markets in general. A market needs to have a huge amount of trading volume to be profitable now. The most profitable markets can probably survive but anything that was barely profitable before should now be extremely unprofitable, and that describes the vast majority of markets on the website

@Fedor

Has it just killed off all markets?

To some extent, yes. I don't know if there's a way to track the market creation rate, but I would be shocked if it didn't decrease by at least a factor of two post-pivot (I think the actual factor by which it decreases will be much larger, probably around an order of magnitude). But [add responses] will be hit especially hard because those rely not just on the creator, but also the traders, to spend mana. Plus, the total cost of any free response market is going to be much much higher than the cost of a binary market.

@PlasmaBallin listed in the stat page here 'questions created' https://manifold.markets/stats

@strutheo So, my most popular market type 'what happens at X formula 1 weekend' gets 20-35 traders. My last one would now cost like ~4000 mana to create, and it raised a total of 50 in fees, so those are to be severely restricted.