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@probajoelistic resolves 'Yes'

@snazzlePop Thanks for the screenshot, I figured I missed this

You can install macOS 15 on any Mac with Apple Silicon, from the M1 chip up

https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/10/which-macs-support-macos-15/

EDIT: I'm not sure that this is correct. Waiting for a more definitive source

Keychain app added to MacOS

Why did this resolve Yes? Sequoia is a type of tree, not a location.

@Jacy Sequoia National Park in California

@JonathanMannhart That's quite a stretch, especially with the resolver being the largest YES holder and betting it up at the last moment.

@Jacy I also don‘t like that @probajoelistic became the largest holder just before they resolved it themself.

I don‘t think it‘s a stretch though, Apple usually names it after places. It probably wouldn‘t have been called Sequoia if there wasn‘t a specific place in California associated with that name.

@JonathanMannhart agreed that not a stretch. Very obviously a continuation of previous California location naming pattern, regardless of how many other things would be called the same thing.

@HenriThunberg @JonathanMannhart consider it alongside the past nine Mac OS names: Sonoma, Ventura (officially San Buenaventura), Monterey, Big Sur, Catalina, Mojave, High Sierra, Yosemite, Mavericks. Before that, they were animal names.

Clearly Sequoia is far less associated with a California location than any of those. I think over 90% (99% even) of the time, when someone says the word "sequoia," that has basically nothing to do with Sequoia National Park. The only one that comes close is that "maverick" is also a common English word in addition to a famous California beach.

For all of intel machines, or some?

@esusatyo This one seems to be asking about “all” (rather than “any”) Intel machines. @snarkyalyx, is that right?

What if certain apps or features aren’t available for Intel, but others are?

@RiverHambleton I’ll interpret questions as being about the main OS update unless specified otherwise. There’s usually an official list somewhere. So, if Intel machines can get the main update but not some app(s), I’d still resolve this NO

Xcode already has neural networks (AI) assistance like text prediction for autocomplete, so I'd assume newer AI features like LLM stuff?

@snarkyalyx Yes, only asking about the addition of features that don't already exist

I think Journal might come to desktop, it would make sense

@snarkyalyx It would make sense! Apple can really drag their feet with these things though (e.g. the weather app on iPad/Mac)

Do Xcode updates typically coincide with MacOS updates?

@snazzlePop I hadn't thought of that. I feel like the answer is "yes, sort of." I think when Apple releases a new version of macOS, an accompanying Xcode update is typically released to support developing applications that take advantage of the new macOS features. If these Xcode rumors are true, they will probably be released in that accompanying Xcode update. In that case, I think the most natural interpretation of this question would be YES, and that's how I would resolve it.

However, if that seems confusing given the market wording of 'MacOS' rather than 'WWDC', I'm fine with NAing this question