Marginalia unrelated to the progression of the Tate’s case.

It looks like the entire cascade of legal trouble was brought on by one white knight, that was dating one of the alleged victims according to the article cited below. Looks like “Alpha Male Tate” was brought down by “Beta Male Simp”. What a twist of irony.

“According to court documents, the sergeant's actions set in motion the investigation that culminated in a raid of Tate's Romanian property, where prosecutors in the Balkan nation say Tate and his younger brother, Tristan, coerced multiple women into making porn on OnlyFans while the duo pocketed a large portion of the revenue.”

“The Tates' lawsuit named the U.S. Marine Corps sergeant as a defendant in an attempt to hold him liable for forwarding the accusers' claims to various government officials. The brothers claimed he was romantically involved with one of the accusers, a Delray Beach woman, and ignored signs that she was fabricating the trafficking story.”

P.S. it’s unclear from the article how evidentiary anything in the court case is, and this is just a commentary about what’s being recited prima facie.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/federal-judge-tosses-andrew-tates-defamation-case-over-sex-trafficking-claims-18911996

the Romanian charges have not been dropped and he is still due to stand trial - this is a lifted travel restriction, nothing more, at this point

@shankypanky I've started a market about whether or not he'll return:

sorry that was rude of me

@memestiny Wake up from your slumber, you need to resolve to NO.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c70wq044znxt

@cthor

I'm cooked bruh

@CourierSix it's still possible he will be convicted in the UK, although the Iggy theory seems to offer a plausible narrative freeing Tate from any Trafficking charges. Seems very unlikely he will be jailed or prosecuted by Romania though.

@dgga wait so is this market just if he gets found guilty of human/sex trafficking anywhere?

@CourierSix afaik both the Romanian and the UK charges were filed by the time this market was created so they should apply as per the matket description:

Regarding his current charges and the outcome of his arrest.

I am not certain though, and cba to look into it

@dgga inshallah brother 🙏🏿 all hope is not lost

@CourierSix I was mistaken, this market, as per description, is only about the Romanian case. The open UK/US cases are civil, and along with the UK arrest warrant, were filed much later, in 2024.

Andrew Tate is facing two main sets of charges:

1. Romanian Case – Charges include:

   • Human trafficking

   • Rape

   • Forming an organized criminal group to exploit women

   Prosecutors allege that Tate and his brother, Tristan, coerced women into working in their webcam business under false pretenses. Some women have claimed they were manipulated into relationships and then forced into producing adult content.

2. UK Case – Charges include:

   • Sexual aggression (between 2012 and 2015)

   • Rape

   • Human trafficking

   The UK issued a European Arrest Warrant for the Tates, but they can only be extradited after legal proceedings in Romania are completed.

Additionally, Romanian authorities have investigated them for money laundering and trafficking of minors, though these accusations are still being processed.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/andrew-tate-arrests-explained.html

For clarity which charges are now being waited on for this to resolve?

How does this resolve as NO? or this a forever market essentially?

What if he is found guilty but then is proven innocent later?

@Bebop "Regarding his current charges and the outcome of his arrest."

I think if he was found not guilty or guilty of current charges the market should be closed.

If the charges are withdrawn it should probably be a No, but I can see an argument for NA.

@StephenBuggy "found guilty" is explicit. If charges are withdrawn then he was not found guilty, the bet doesn't stipulate specifically being found guilty through the course of a trial

While I think Tate is a creep, whatever this is looks political. But Trump already won, so he'll likely walk away. If I'm wrong, then it's because I didn't care enough to actually check any of the details.

@AlexanderKlos He is not in the United States

@SaiVazquez please don't talk about details like this! 😃

@SaiVazquez Neither was Julian Assange, smarty pants. Tate (somehow) became a political figure online who was a threat to some US interests, and countries allied to the US will absolutely drag people through the mud on their behalf.

The statement says "regarding his current charges" so I would assume this won't be open for another 5 years?

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Is there suddenly some hint that there might have been non-human (sex) trafficking?