By which event will I FINALLY be able to login to my account on my laptop (using an Apple ID)?
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I have had a request for this open since October 2023, and haven’t had a single Manifold staff comment on it despite it getting 12 likes and frequent mentions and bumps.

They are restricting privacy focused users who don’t want to give their emails, who are only able to use the app on their phones, in the mobile app. This isn’t supported on web browsers nor mobile web. There is no option to add Google accounts to Apple ID accounts.

Regardless of the method, if I can login and use the full suite of Manifold functionality on Web with my main account @mattyb every open answer Resolves YES.

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also resolves no

By Manifest (June 7th)
bought Ṁ655 By Manifest (June 7th) NO

@mods resolves no

sold Ṁ82 Not by year’s end (M... NO
sold Ṁ142 By October 1st YES

Someone who has an Apple ID, please test this

bought Ṁ30 By Manifest (June 7th) YES

@nikki I don't see it. Guessing it's only visible on Apple devices?

bought Ṁ20 By Thanksgiving (Nov... YES

@chrisjbillington FWIW this is what I see on my macbook (incognito)

@Ziddletwix (i'm not sure the button does anything,but I don't have an iOS account to check with properly)

@Ziddletwix can confirm that a non-working button now exists in the iOS Webview. I oddly don’t see it on Chrome Incognito

I have a question and am not sure where to ask it, so I hope it’s okay to do it here: I would like to donate some of my Mana. However, I cannot find this feature in the iOS app. Also, I cannot log in to the web app because I signed up with Apple ID, not knowing about this problem. Is there any workaround here:

  • maybe I missed the feature in the app?

  • maybe I can switch my account to Google login?

  • something else?

@AmadeoBordiga oh, let me ask this in the discord, here.

@mattyb here’s a response from the CEO (95% sure) himself:

We can't allow you to donate from the ios app due to apple terms. We also had to provide ios sign in because of their rules

If you signed up with ios, then the best you can do is create a new account on desktop and send it the mana to donate

@AmadeoBordiga tagged myself instead oops

@mattyb Thank you!

By April 1st
bought Ṁ1,000 By April 1st NO

just tested, and sadly no :(

sold Ṁ1 By May 1st YES

@mattyb no easter miracle =(

@Ziddletwix i have a sinking suspicion that this one is gonna resolve “manifold hates you, get fucked”

Not by year’s end (Manifold hates you, get fucked)

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bought Ṁ10 By May 1st YES

@chrisjbillington

Most recent manifold staff reply:

"It's not obviously good to allow a work-around, because then they will expect Apple sign in to always work on web.

Unless this takes 2 minutes for me, or another team member wants to take this on, I'd be tempted to close the PR."

I believe @case briefly looked into this and told me it would be a non trivial amount of work. So I suspect manifold staff are aware of the issue, but the math on (how many people it would benefit X how much work it would be) just wasn’t high enough :(

@Nikos then disable iOS new logins. It’s insane that Manifold has chosen to ½ support this. If they weren’t ready to fully adopt this, they shouldn’t have rolled it out in the first place.

@mattyb Ya, it is crazy! My understanding for why this happens is that Apple won’t let you release an iOS app if you have third party auth (ie google auth) but not also Apple ID. So companies will add the bare minimum to get into the App Store (ie Apple ID in the iOS app, but not in the web version).

Manifold is not the only company to do this. Which sucks because I love the idea of Apple ID but I’m worried about getting stuck in situations like this so I end up avoiding it 😭

If I’m remembering correctly the reason it is tricky to add to manifold is that the web login is tightly coupled to the sign up flow. Maybe it would be easier to add a separate route/page that is just to let Apple ID people in?

bought Ṁ150 By April 1st NO

@Nikos Or At least allow people to change login route in the app, ie, use email and password

Not by year’s end (Manifold hates you, get fucked)

lol

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