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For example, groping ass, dick, boob, tit, ballsack, etc.
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@levifinkelstein I definitely think it depends who does the groping. I can think of a few people who are absolutely free to grab my junk, and many more who are not welcome. Is this because I am a man and not a woman?
@levifinkelstein I was mildly groped for about an hour on a United Express flight by a woman. After the flight she apologized & I think she was high. Was ok with it but it was awkward.
@levifinkelstein her hand was wandering all over my upper thigh and occasionally surrounding environs
This is going to be a difficult question to answer because it depends on the guy or the girl and the experience.
There are examples like Brendan Fraser that suggest some guys don't like it and may equally find it traumatic.
It seems like gender / sex isn't really the relevant factor, it's more the abuse of power and confrontation with vulnerability. Arguably it may be more traumatic for someone who has less awareness of their vulnerability to have this experience, as the shock may be greater.
@Simon3c6c Can you elaborate on your last paragraph? I'd be very interested in fleshing this more out. Especially "more the abuse of power and confrontation with vulnerability" is quite unclear to me.
Consent violations are an abuse of power i.e. I can violate your boundary and you can't stop me.
This can be a traumatic realisation: I thought the world granted me ownership of my body, but it doesn't, I only have the experience of ownership of my body because more powerful forces decline to use their power to control it i.e. I'm safe by the grace of more powerful forces and there are powerful forces that are not gracious (people willing to grope me).
The other side of this realisation is understanding that you can attack people more vulnerable than you, and that the only reason you don't is because you don't desire to, or you wilfully suppress your desire, or you are afraid of retribution from another force.
These are all fundamentally issues about power, control, autonomy and fear. How traumatic these experiences are is a function of how much of a violation of your world-model it is i.e. how much of threat to your sense of safety and security it is - an embodied phenomenon.
So - the traumatic aspect I think is gender-agnostic. Though I recognise the argument that "women are more vulnerable to a wider range of threats and are in actuality less safe and secure, so a woman becoming aware of her vulnerability experiences greater trauma than a man".
For people where being groped is not traumatic, how much they "care" about it likely relates more to sense of justice and fairness, how disgusting they find the experience etc. This seems to be a matter of sensibility and perhaps self-worth, which are likely culturally determined (relating to norms) moreso than they are existentially determined (relating to the reality of the threat).
When I was younger (16-20) me and the boys would always grope each other's dicks for fun, in sort of "haha got you" kind of way. I personally didn't care at all and found it all very exciting. I can't imagine caring if some random guy or girl groped my dick. I think most guys care more than me but it seems women care WAAAY more. This monke video made me think about this, given how the girl in it seemingly doesn't care at all about being groped, and even finds it amusing. However if the monke was a guy she would presumably feel very bad about herself and probably even have some sort of trauma.
