Will Manifold Love fix the "ethnicity" category by February 14, 2024?
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This market resolves as YES upon Manifold Dating:

  • Renaming their current "ethnicity" category to "race"

  • Altering their current "ethnicity" category in such a way that it actually allows users to select an ethnicity, rather than a race

  • Removing the current "ethnicity" category, and either not including it or replacing it with a more accurate one.

Otherwise, this resolves as NO on February 14, 2024.

The problem

Currently, Manifold Dating's "ethnicity" option is actually a "race" option. It has a DNA symbol next to it* and the choices include "Caucasian** and Asian," neither of which are ethnicities - they're racial categories.

An ethnicity is a cultural group with shared traditions, art, and history. Examples include Spanish, German, Ukrainian, Catalonian, Japanese, Ainu, Tamil, Palestinian, Asian-American, Arab-American, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Xhosa, Jamaican, and African-American.

A race is a social construction based on perceived biological differences between different groups of people (there are biological differences, but they amount to things like "melanin concentration in skin," "hair texture," "eyelid type," etc. - race is literally skin-deep.) Examples include white, Asian, and Black. Race can create ethnicity in racially divided societies - e.g. the development of an African-American ethnic identity in the U.S.

*Maybe not the best look for a site that's part of the same brand as another site where a significant minority of users support "scientific" racism and eugenics.

**"Caucasian" is a fictionalized racial categorization based on "scientific" racism and theories of "biological race" and it should really be replaced by "White" or "European," but that's not a requirement for this market to resolve as YES.

Potential solutions

Change the label from "ethnicity" to "race."

  • Pros: Simplest option, least effort.

  • Cons: Having a "race" option with a DNA icon next to it is not a good look for a website sharing a brand with one that has a non-insignificant population of "scientific" racists.

Change the category to accurately reflect ethnicity

  • Pros: Avoids the cons mentioned above. Allows people to express a cultural identity, which is more relevant information than race if you're interested in understanding someone's personality.

  • Cons: Requires Manifold to either add hundreds of options or allow users to input text freely, which could open it up to abuse (what do you do with a user who puts "Aryan" as their ethnicity?)

Remove the category entirely (and possibly replace it with something else.)

  • Pros: ...?

  • Cons: ...?

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@mods did this happen or not

@Marnix I still see it, so resolves no?

  • Cons: Having a "race" option with a DNA icon next to it is not a good look for a website sharing a brand with one that has a non-insignificant population of "scientific" racists.

Can't we just, yknow, do that and change the icon along with it?

predictedYES

@bohaska Yup, that would work.

Maybe manifold.love can be the truth social of dating?

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@AlexbGoode Oh God no

Great post! I'm putting it in the manifold love discord channel

As someone from outside the US it feels super weird (if not racist) to filter by race on a dating app. Oh and the imperial units too but that’s another story 🤣

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@NiciusB As someone in the U.S., I agree.

@NiciusB Yeah, if you care about appearance then that's obvious from the photos. If you care about values then that's obvious from the text. Not sure what that field is optimizing for.

@NiciusB I've been living in the US for years but I still cringe a little whenever I need to fill my "race" on a job application or whatever. Where I come from people never identify themselves by "race". It feels a bit racist to do so.

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