Before the rooster crows on the morning of November 6, will Donald Trump have denied the election results three times?
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Roosters typically crow around an hour before dawn, which in Washington DC is 6:41 am on November 6th. So we'll use 5:41 AM Eastern Time as the cutoff for this.

Will Donald Trump make three separate statements denying the election results before then? A statement is considered a denial of the results if it is specifically contradicting a statement by an official, widely recognized news source about the outcome of the election. Some examples:

"We won this election," if the election has not been called yet (or has been called for Kamala) - counts as a denial

"I call for a recount" - does not count as a denial

"This election is not yet decided," if the election has been called by major news sources - counts as a denial

The statements don't have to be in separate speeches, but have to be separated by at least one sentence. "We won Pennsylvania, we won Wisconsin, and we won Michigan" only counts as one (if they hadn't been called yet)

I won't trade on this market as it's a little subjective.

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I think Fox News called the election before Trump spoke. The AP hadn’t called it but Fox is a legitimate source, and they wouldn’t want to go back on a call. So I think this should resolve NO unless I missed something big while I was asleep.

sold Ṁ117 YES

@dominic Silly me, I hadn’t thought to check Fox

@dominic yeah his speech was delayed from when I expected and he ended up calling it a few minutes after the news.

[edit: site was lagging and I duplicated my comment]

[edit: site was lagging and I duplicated my comment]

bought Ṁ350 YES

This is not verbatim, but in the first four minutes of his Minneapolis speech on Fox he says:

  • I’m honored to be elected the 47th president

  • We won Wisconsin

  • We won the popular vote

All of these are likely to go his way, but as of yet I have not seen a major source call any of these for Trump.

Trump is about to speak, and there is virtually no chance he does not call it, which counts as denying the election results by the definition of this market.

Which rooster?

bought Ṁ50 NO

Seems weird for it to be so high since he won’t deny it in the 50% of cases where he wins

@DevonFritz not necessarily. If it LOOKS like he won't win a swing state, he'll almost certainly start it up

bought Ṁ50 YES

@DevonFritz it also counts as denial if he declares victory before the election is called.

@DevonFritz This seems to be aging well.

bought Ṁ50 YES

part of me things he won't get up early enough in the morning, but, I think "yes" is a safer bet

What if he says that illegal immigrants are voting, like he has in previous statements? Does it need to deny a result, or only contradict the integrity of the voting process?

@LarsOsborne It’ll be a bit of a judgment call. I think “I won X state if not for the illegal immigrants that voted” is a denial, but just saying “Lots of illegal immigrants voted” isn’t specifically denying a result.

This is a hilarious market. I'm not betting but it is funny af.

Anybody want to dig into roughly what the count would have been last time?

bought Ṁ50 NO

Had to put a bet in on this market only because i think it’s brilliant.

Why 5:41 instead of 6:41?

@Qoiuoiuoiu "Roosters typically crow around an hour before dawn, which in Washington DC is 6:41 am on November 6th. So we'll use 5:41 AM Eastern Time as the cutoff for this."

@TiredCliche oh I misinterpreted sorry

@Qoiuoiuoiu I forgive you.

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