Trump gives Elon a nickname by end of July?
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  • Wikipedia: List of nicknames used by Donald Trump

  • I am not pre-committing to resolving based on that source, but it is very likely that I'd follow it.

    • I.e. if I need to decide what constitutes a "nickname", I'll look at this list, and decide "do I think it would be included?".

    • But I probably won't wait for Wikipedia to update, rather I'll rule on whether I think it fits in with the others.

If you can guess the nickname in the comments below (ONE GUESS PER ACCOUNT) before Trump first uses it, I will send you 420 + 69 mana.

Guessing game notes:

  • For guesses, I will be ~reasonably lenient about spelling/punctuation/etc, but fairly strict about the specific phrasing/words used.

  • Some people are including multiple guesses in the same comment. That's fine, but I'll only count the first. So you can grab someone's second guess for your own.

  • Among duplicate guesses, I'll only reward the first submission chronologically.

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bought Ṁ100 YES

Eely Elon.

sold Ṁ14 YES

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962

I regret some of my posts about President [@realDonaldTrump](https://x.com/realDonaldTrump) last week. They went too far.

Sorry, I've been busy, & not able to monitor this market (warning: whether or not I've resolved it shouldn't be used as proof that a nickname does/doesn't count, I might just be delayed in evaluating it).

TL;DR: I'm not going to resolve this yet, but I'm also not certifying that what's been said so far couldn't possibly be YES—it just isn't clear cut enough for me to resolve early, I'll wait and see if we get more info.

Details: Wikipedia currently lists "The Man Who Lost His Mind" as a nickname. My instinct is to disagree—ignoring whether or not it's a good nickname, this feels like a description Trump is using for Elon, not a "nickname".

For context, I don't really understand why it was added to Wikipedia in the first place? The Talk page has a very clear set of criteria:

Following an RfC in 2021, all nicknames added to this list must meet the following criteria:

  • Described as a nickname by at least one secondary, independent, reliable source.

  • Described as being used by Trump by at least one secondary, independent, reliable source.

  • Trump should have used the nickname on at least two separate occasions.

  • There should be lasting coverage of the nickname.

Any nicknames added to this list which do not meet all four of these criteria may be removed.

I don't understand how criteria (1), (3), or (4) are satisfied?

  • The linked source on Wikipedia does not to it as a "nickname". If someone can find a source that does, please send me a link.

  • I can only find a single time Trump used this description—am I missing something? (Again, please send me a link if I did).

  • And it's obviously too early for there to be "lasting coverage of the nickname".


So currently, I would rule NO, in part because I don't see how this name satisfies Wikipedia's own criteria. If I am shown sources that convince me these criteria are satisfied (or there's discussion on Wikipedia explaining the inclusion), I will certainly reconsider (& I'm not committing to following these 4 criteria, but at a glance they do seem like a reasonable starting point).

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bought Ṁ59 YES

Cranky Elon

I’m not sure “Man Who Lost His Mind” should count. It doesn’t fit the format, is not a direct attack on his character, and comes across more as a euphemistic attempt not to say “Elon Musk” than an actual insult.

@BlueDragon there are a bunch in the Wikipedia list not being a play on the name (eg Low IQ War Hawk for Liz Cheney). The only reason to not resolve is because the nickname is so bad. Since the market is kinda a meme, maybe wait till end of July if we get a better one, and possibly also pay out someone who guessed it right? Would be more fun imo.

bought Ṁ50 NO

@Phill I disagree with Wikipedia then. Low IQ war hawk is a descriptor and not a nickname. Are you sure the wiki says it's exclusively nick names and not names in general or something else?

bought Ṁ200 YES

In addition to the man who lost his mind, he's called him "Medicare Elon"

@Metachirality Where did you see that?

He's on the Wikipedia page as "The Man who lost his mind"

bought Ṁ350 NO

one of my troll accounts say they will make up <3 lol

bought Ṁ100 YES

Elon is now on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump (as

"The Man Who Lost His Mind")

Maybe something like Elon gone

bought Ṁ100 YES

He called elon a dog and a snake

@PoliticalEconomyPK slurs not nicknames

yeah it's not like "dog" or "snake" couldn't end up being a "nickname" trump uses, but him just calling elon that derogatory term wouldn't count. e.g. he has called lots of people "snakes", but "snake" doesn't currently appear on the wikipedia list

My guess is "Elon the (illegal) alien", "Alien Elon" or "E.T. Elon", because he's weird and from South Africa.

bought Ṁ50 YES

@redcat ET Elon would be a good one

bought Ṁ400 YES

‘Mediocre Musk’ seems to be what he’s landed on

@DanBorthwick oops, fake news

bought Ṁ30 YES

Felon Musk

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"crybaby" is my actual guess.

Feel free to take:

Wacky Elon (compare Omarosa)

Weird El

squeelon

Not feelin' Musk

Rocket Downer Jr.

Irony Man

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