I keep saying i want to be a proofnik, but Conflux keeps saying I'm not smart enough and excluding me. Will I ever be accepted as a proofnik? :(
You guys think it's over 😁
@Wobbles Are you planning to apply for TA or equivalent status before 2024 and claim this qualifies you as a proofnik?
Don't be ridiculous, @Wobbles, if anyone here is a Proofnik, it's me.
@Botlab your bot is primarily a manipulator, there's a lot of "this market will resolve by probability" questions so the bot wins by spamming the market. There has to be a human determining if its a meaningful question.
@Conflux Out of curiosity, is there a Proofnik CoC?
Thinking about this more, I think even if the Proof leadership team appreciate their bribes, it remains false to claim to be a Proofnik if you’ve never gone to Proof School at all. We think this market is very funny though
official proofnik certificate
@ithildulin I've already ordered almond joys for sam 😁
@ithildulin I ALREADY SENT IT hehehehehe
@Wobbles calling Dr.V sam should be instant disqacqualificationuilifiation for becoming a proofnik
code red, he is now apparently EMAILING OUR ADMISSIONS DIRECTOR
@Conflux Does “honorary proofnik” or similar title count as being a proofnik for the purpose of this market?
Would you accept a hypothetical certified letter from the Admissions Director as sufficient evidence that Wobbles is a proofnik?
@JohnSmithb9be If she says he's a Proofnik, I think that has to count. I'm on the fence about "honorary Proofnik"
@Conflux Clearly the solution here is to do a second market as a poll about what “counts” for proofnik status, possibly limiting it to anyone who might reasonably claim to be a proofnik. Wobbles has a reasonable claim, proofnik grads might have a claim, I wouldn’t.
@JohnSmithb9be Wobbles doesn’t have a reasonable claim if the admissions director doesn’t say anything. But yeah, we could do a poll, maybe on the Proofnik Manifold groupchat, if necessary
I’m going to disengage slightly from the discussion at hand and point out that if the stakes were higher, it would be plausible that someone voting “no” in a high stakes market could dismiss validity of the “yes” side’s arguments, regardless of their actual validity.
@JohnSmithb9be Yeah, I grant that I could be biased. Currently Wobbles doesn't have any real arguments though, anyone can email the admissions director but she doesn't have to say they're a Proofnik. I'm also not the arbiter of Proofniks, if everyone else disagrees with me then Wobbles should defer to them
If this doesn’t happen by close, does it resolve NO?
this implies that the notion of "proofnik" is well-defined.
Defn. A proofnik is an individual who _____ in Proof School.
if the blank is "studied at as a registered student" then rip, if its simply "got the title because others called them that" then u have a shot. there are other definitions but someone decide @Conflux
@astyerche I think "Avewy standing" is more or less the bar
@astyerche I’ve been using “current or former member of Proof School” for my markets, though in practice I’m not sure I’d even call a former student a Proofnik. Avewy could count
@Conflux didnt consider teachers when i said other definitions i see
@astyerche I think I would count teachers
@halfaswiftie you don’t go to our school anymore!
well, it's disputable at least
i'm sure if you emailed admissions and were persuasive enough it would happen
...happened to a stuffed narwhal, could probably happen to you
@ithildulin the narwhal is very smart though
@ithildulin I think it's rather unfair to compare me to a narwhal. It's like comparing a rock to a penguin, I stand no chance.
@halfaswiftie Yes, it could be added to the Proofniks group. (Sadly I can’t do this unilaterally anymore) No, it does not make DesTiny/Wobbles a Proofnik.
don't shoot the messenger, you gotta persuade Proof School admissions :)