Is profanity by children a bad thing that should be forbidden, even if it's not used to insult others?
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To clarify, this about whether you think it should be forbidden in an ideal society, not whether you think we are individually forced to obey the rules while living in the current society that does still forbid it.

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Children need to be taught swearing is bad and wrong and holds weight so they can use it for it’s positive effects https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7204505/

Swearing has value because it is profane, strong language. If it is used without restriction then over time it would become no more impactful than “dang” or “heck”. And we’d need new profanities. And children have no impulse control so they’d use it without restriction.

It's totally situational. Do they have tourettes or even just no impulse control? Or do they use profanity on merit only? Or deliberately to annoy? Definitely society should have no say in it. Should be part of parenting.

I regret not making the "strong no" option be "fuck no", but alas poll options can't be edited 😞

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🔥Hot take🔥: policing non-pejorative swearing is fucking stupid, change my mind

@TheAllMemeingEye in the context of, everyone in the world agreed to this principle and general worldview shifted immediately, sure. In the context of.. like real life. Yeah I would forbid my kid for the good of their success academically, junior professionally etc.

I was raised that way and so were like nearly all my peers and I don't think we ever really felt like we missed out on something in our childhood by this, and we could still use and enjoy profanity in our adulthood when we understood context and stuff better and had more mature judgement. idk maybe im old school

@No_uh It sounds like you also agree that it shouldn't be forbidden, but like me you simply acknowledge that while living in a society that does forbid it we are forced to obey those rules. Arguably humanity is stuck in a bit of a societal coordination problem here. Perhaps we just need to keep voicing our disagreement with the rules (without necessarily breaking them) and lead by example by not forbidding it ourselves.

An extract from Inadequate Equilibria that comes to mind:

Cecie: Consider a simpler example: Velcro is a system for fastening shoes that is, for at least some people and circumstances, better than shoelaces. It’s easier to adjust three separate Velcro straps then it is to keep your shoelaces perfectly adjusted at all loops, it’s faster to do and undo, et cetera, and not everyone is running at high speeds that call for perfectly adjusted running shoes. But when Velcro was introduced, the earliest people to adopt Velcro were those who had the most trouble tying their shoelaces—very young children and the elderly. So Velcro became associated with kids and old people, and thus unforgivably unfashionable, regardless of whether it would have been better than shoelaces in some adult applications as well.

Visitor: I take it you didn’t have the stern and upright leaders, what we call the Serious People, who could set an example by donning Velcro shoes themselves?

Simplicio & Cecie: (in unison) No.

Visitor: I see.

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