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I resolved this one to No because it's unclear whether a majority of the crew are alive, and they definitely are not "shown".

I think the remaining ones are all Nos, but correct me before I resolve them all in the next couple hours if I'm wrong.

@SemioticRivalry I lost this bet but think the resolution is fair. You did a great job on this market and I had a lot of fun.

@BobSnodgrass Thanks ❤

He did return home - the beginning of the last episode shows him at home with his grandchildren.

@Laya He did not. Notice he still has the cross when he’s old in that “vision” - that’s the same one he dumps in the ocean.

@BobSnodgrass i agree with this interpretation- i also think the way it's presented is that it's Blackthorne actually dreaming it, and not necessarily a vision of his actual future.

Since I see you're resolving these, I'd like to say that I think the markets that didn't happen 'yet' should resolve as no (Toranaga wins, in particular)

@aok I resolved it yes because even though his army has not yet faced Ishido's army, he already has won through his political maneuverings, or at least that's the strong implication from the show imo.

I'm out of town rn i'll resolve these later this week

@SemioticRivalry If you can just do it before May 1st would be appreciated! ;)

@SneakySly highly likely

Did this not happen? We see some of his crew at some point. at least one guy, but maybe more for a brief moment, I don't remember

@Bayesian The crew member also specifically states that most of them are alive.

@BobSnodgrass @Bayesian I sold out of this one because they weren’t “shown” (ep 8). And six survived at that point, unclear how many there were to begin.

(this is said not having watched the last episode yet)

@Laya Iirc from episode one they had ~12 and then the one dude got killed. So “mostly” seems like it is true with six survivors.

I also understood “shown” to be more like “revealed to audience” than “each of the extras from episode one is physically accounted for on screen.”

I believed this should resolve to yes, but we will see! (I also haven’t seen episode 10 yet).

What if he kills himself?

@AbilAbraham2816 presumably if he kills himself because of his treachery or because he got caught treachery-ing, it would count?

I believe it's confirmed Mariko died.

This seemingly happened at the end of Episode 8, no?

@benshindel transport, that is?

This definitely happened lol

you mean the catholic church? afaik the protestants aren't present

This can resolve - episode 4!

@Laya lol watch again

@mattyb https://decider.com/2024/03/14/shogun-episode-4-who-did-blackthorne-sleep-with-anna-sawai-explains/amp/

It’s made clear in the book, and it’s heavily hinted at in the show.

@Santiago iiiiinteresting

she said like, i hope u liked the service, and he clearly acted like he knew it was her, but her comment was implying, i thought, that she didnt do it out of interest but out of duty or wtv. Could be a misinterpretation

@Bayesian she did it and confused him by saying that. it's a secret between them bc she can't admit to it happening

@mattyb Am I missing something? It occurred in Episode 4, 6 minutes from the end of the episode.

@Laya it’s @SemioticRivalry‘s market and call here. i think it’s still pretty sketchy to count Ep 4, which wasn’t clear, but I completely defer to Semiotic’s discretion

@mattyb Oh got it! I thought you might have some information I somehow missed.

@SemioticRivalry I think it's clear they slept together - if you watch the scene with the screen bright, you can clearly see it's the same actress and all. John did not fight/freak out after he saw it was Mariko there. Here are episode recaps that include reference to them sleeping together: Vulture, GameRant, Esquire, and NY Times.