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Not that I’m attempting to make an argument against a resolution of yes, but if what Musk says is true (prioritizing access based on how long you’ve been an X Premium subscriber, which suggests that not everyone who is a subscriber will be getting access), it’s a very self serving selection process for beta testers. Mainly his biggest fans would subscribe to X premium immediately (it came out on October 27). Additionally, many people say they can’t subscribe to X premium even now, including some who have interacted with Musk a lot, so potentially XAI may be individually selecting who can get access.
https://x.com/wholemarsblog/status/1721988199365677123?s=46&t=qfz6dEzytObZisI2GEll9g
@Yves If they are handpicking who gets access instead of a regular wait list with access only based on when you signed up, that’s not how most companies coordinate a public release of products. That would be a beta test.
@Yves It might be the case that this is a real release with access solely based on the waitlist, but given how Tesla handled FSD Beta waitlists, I think there’s a good chance they aren’t actually just letting anyone who signs up get access.
Non X Person seems to have access: https://x.com/stclairashley/status/1721956902903451897?s=46&t=CYEWiZ5YuQhLnjUiOIjuyw
@Yves Interesting, so it seems like some number of 'Verified' people do have access now.
@Eliza Wait, are we sure this is not, like....a meme/humor thing where someone makes a fake post to generate engagement?
@NickHeinonen Can you clarify what is constituted by a release? We don't know what we are betting on...
@PatrikCihal Hi, if it is available for members of the general public, even with subscription or waitlist, that counts. But we need to get confirmation that is actually happening.
@UgbotuDaniel How has Grok been "released"? It's only in beta testing. That's not a "release".
@jim Haha, well I think that’s the beginning of the argument. We don’t know if this is released externally to anyone, and Musk’s private circle of friends, employees, and business partners shouldn’t count. I too can say I’m releasing my LLM via invitation and you can sign up to be waitlisted indeterminately.
Musk (and some of his previous investors, me included) have benefited from vapourware products that helped raise funding rounds and stock prices, but actual releases are generally several years away at best.
Publicly announcing overly optimistic roadmaps and alpha and invite-only beta tests of products that are far from ready for public release can be a viable strategy, but should not be confused for actually shipping product to the public.
@TP8ac2 yeah needs to be confirmed that random members of the public are getting access but then should resolve yes