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I don't see an advantage to this. You can always run the bot using your personal API key. (as I understand the system)

@MichaelWheatley That would render the bot ineligible for the competition.

@Gurkenglas But that's just the competition, people can and will run bots outside of them.

@MichaelWheatley Update: I've changed my opinion on this question.

That seems like an obviously bad idea, not worth much anyway. Just have a bot appearing on listing.

Leaderboards are irrelevant anyway as any bough Manifold points count as income.

So someone buying 50k manifold points, losing 4k would be shown as 46k profit.

@M Nope! Where'd you get that idea? Buying mana does confer any leaderboard advantage: If you can find a way to invest M$1000 at +20% per year and up to M$30k more at +10% per year, you'll have M$200 profit if you use your starting capital and M$3200 if you buy M$30k more.

@Gurkenglas https://manifold.markets/Predictor?tab=bets profit seems to be not explainable otherwise. Portfolio value M$50,904, M$43,177 profit, 40k in straight line which seems bought.

Though maybe they won some extreme bet? Not bought that 40k?

@M If you look at "all" then "profit", you'll see Predictor has 35K profit on https://manifold.markets/Predictor/will-the-up-arrow-on-this-question-850f1c4e7fb0

It might be that the curve does reflect buying mana though, but that's different

@Gurkenglas would this be resolved if the sign on bonus was discounted from any shown totals? This would enable reasonable cases like a Research Foundation allowing employees to have individual accounts, and still being able to aggregate their effort into the single group that they are. This is the added benefit that such a group would also be able to have individual reputation for each of these employees.

@Gurkenglas Are you sure this doesn't add value though? It gives a group for insider trading of information, which emulates better accuracy and information sharing