Rank these 5 presidents from your favourite(1) to least favourite.(5)
HOW RANKED CHOICE on manifold works: The ranked choice poll will use a points-based system.
#1 selection: 5 points
#2 selection: 4 points
#3 selection: 3 points
#4 selection: 2 points
#5 selection: 1 point
Unranked options recieve 0 points.
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This kind of points based ranked choice is a really dumb way to vote. Because the winner is influenced by the point scale, which is completely arbitrary.It should be approval voting instead.You can give one point to whoever you want and not give points to whoever you don't want to give one point too.
@digory I personally love approval voting, but here you actually have the option to give or not give points. I think it makes sense for a ranking poll that isn't trying to just choose a single winner.
@ShawnReynolds oh I forgot that you didn't have to rank them all, still , the idea that you can give zero points to as many as you like , and then you can give 5432 and 1. To just one each, seems really arbitrary. Like, we could have picked different values for those numbers and the winner, and the ultimate ranking might be different.If we gave different values to those numbers. Like why not powers of two? It could be anything, it doesn't have to be consecutive values.
@digory I think the best option here is if you could rate all of them whatever you want 1-5, but I don't think that's an option on Manifold.
vote clinton if u wanna troll (174/163/125/97/55 obama/biden/clinton/bush/trump)
(i have no stake in this market but am willing to be bribed)
edit: changed to clinton due to Obama's massive lead
Factors to consider that you might be overlooking:
The Bush plan for AIDS is claimed to have saved 25 million lives.
The Clinton crime bill is generally recognized to have increased incarceration while playing little role in the drop in crime.
NAFTA (under Clinton) is considered to have increased economic growth (with mixed effects on jobs). Admitting China to the WTO (also under Clinton) is considered to have benefited consumers but caused large job losses for Americans and hollowed out certain manufacturing sectors and parts of the country.
Clinton, Bush, and Obama all adopted a mostly hands-off approach to new digital technologies.
Clinton and Bush had similar policies towards financial regulation.
My voting list:
Place 1. Biden
He defeated Trump in the election and could potentially do so again if he were healthy. His policies were generally adequate, and under his presidency the U.S. was seen as a positive actor by friendly nations and allies.
Place 2. Bush
He appeared like a silly ordinary person, but he managed to eliminate Saddam Hussein and defeat Gaddafi - superpowerful maniaks whom previous presidents had been unable or unwilling to confront decisively.
Place 3. Clinton
He governed during the era of the internet’s global launch. His administration supported massive global investment that initially improved people’s lives worldwide. However, this also contributed to the rise of powerful elites and transnational corporations that overpowered small states.
Place 4. Trump
He made many extremely aggressive and abusive statements toward other countries, which ironically pushed them to become more independent and united. His policies also exposed serious problems in the U.S. prison and enforcement systems, with tens thousands of innocent men and women tortured into detention over administrative immigration issues.
Place 5. Obama
Obama received enormous praise and even a Nobel Peace Prize nomination, but wasted all that credit and for many people in Asia, Africa, South America his presidency was deeply harmful. He abandoned allies, allowed U.S. weapons to fall into the hands of ISIS and al-Qaeda, and betrayed Georgia, despite Georgia having achieved the most successful anti-corruption transformations in the post-Soviet and reopening a real path toward NATO and EU integration. By forgiving and accepting Russia’s 2008 invasion and occupation of Georgian territory, Obama enabled Putin’s military rise and set the precedent that later led to Russia’s subsequent wars and invasions.
Internationally, Obama was much more terrible for people. Trump often speaks nonsense, Russian propaganda and promotes war criminals and dictators, which is deeply tragic.
However, Trump has maintained sanctions (encreased slightly), helping to protect allies (not anbandoning fully), and has not been entirely hostile to human freedoms.
He also promised support for Iranian protesters, as the Iranian regime is extremely corrupt. He has imposed sanctions on Venezuela as well, where democracy is largely fake and the country is ruled by corrupt bandits and criminal networks.
Trump’s narcissism is a serious flaw and harmful both for him and for the United States. Obama, on the other hand, had negative consequences for people around the world, including the rise of ISIS and Putin, as well as leaving conflicts to rise in Africa and elsewhere.
Both Obama and Trump had negative aspects, but in the end, the results are mixed.