"Telling the truth" includes being right about NHIs, and also includes him having been misled by the people he spoke to.
"Lying" includes any reason for lying, including the government asking him to, doing it for profit or publicity, etc.
"Delusional" includes any situation where he believes himself to be telling the truth, but the evidence he claims to have seen and heard was not actually experienced by him.
This resolves once there's no more active investigation by the government and there seems to be a consensus. If it's still unclear I'll leave it open for longer until we get a definitive answer.
In the event that it's a mix of the above, I'll pick the one that seems most true. I won't bet.
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3.00@DavidBolin I'm pretty sure it's not NHI, but other than that I have no idea. It's not something I would have expected to happen if you had asked me last year.
This is a great market, but to avoid confusion, I think you should make a slight modification and remove the word "extraterrestrials."
Neither Grusch nor most UFO believers claim that non-human intelligence is from another planet, which is implied by the word "terrestrial." I think the word "aliens" should be avoided because of its similar implication.
@SteveSokolowski Would you mind expanding on this? Do you think most UFO believers have a specific non-extraterrestrial explanation (time travelers, Silurians, descendents of colonizers, etc), or do you think most UFO believers just stop at the generic "non-human intelligence" line without taking the argument any further (remaining deliberately agnostic to specifics)?
@whenhaveiever When I was reading through all this stuff, one of the things that shocked me is how consistent it all is. The inconsistencies only seem to occur in the people who are making wild extrapolations beyond what there is at least some evidence for.
I tried to come up with the best word to use during a speech to try to describe what people think the NHI is, and I think the best term is "God."
The consensus (called the "interdimensional hypothesis") seems to be that humans are still missing some key thing about physics, reality, and consciousness. Humans seem to have something special that this being doesn't have and wants. It's trying to protect humans, surveil them, and teach them something. And if the researchers at these defense labs have these craft, the reason they have gotten nowhere with their reverse engineering programs is that we still don't have the correct understanding of reality to figure out what its goals are.
That's one of the key reasons I'm still not above 20% on these claims. Grusch and these witnesses are claiming they can't figure out the craft but they have make "contact" with this thing; how could we even begin to communicate with such a being if we can't understand the basic principles of the craft?