@journcy Mahjong causes great damage to the human spirit without a single benefit

does manifold markets count as a game?

Dyson Sphere Program

https://turingcomplete.game/

@SorenJ I second turing complete. Having attended a cs degree, I'd say that game easily teaches the equivalent of a couple of modules, on computer architecture and low level programming!

Does manifold count as a game?

This one? Yes. :)

@No_uh teaches you how the brits have the worst fucking taste ever https://scrandle.com/

Hopefully virtual/augmented reality games are admissible!

PianioVision is a fantastic tool for practicing piano, a bit like playing Guitar Hero but on a real instrument.

I don't expect it to do too well because the resolution criteria make this sound more like a popularity contest than anything else, but I had to suggest it because it's been such a useful and valuable one for me.

@bens this teaches everything: geography, languages and scripts, license plates, lens aberrations, vehicles, street and urban infrastructure, utility pole design, vegetation, climate conditions around the world, etc

@IsaacKing just computer games? Or all games?

@bens All games. Eleusis is a card game.

The Farmer Was Replaced teaches both coding and solving problems through code as you advance through an rpg-style skill tree. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2060160/The_Farmer_Was_Replaced/

Crusader Kings 3

@Dulaman What does it teach?

@IsaacKing medieval geopolitics and social dynamics

@Dulaman oh good one tbh

Whoever is buying Yes on Magic the Gathering should really wait for clarification because I have a very high confidence that Isaac has actually played Magic the Gathering in the past. The market description includes "that I haven't played before".

@Eliza no way Isaac has played Magic, that seems unlikely to me from first principles, I mean, base rates are pretty low probably only 1% of Americans have played Magic, and he’s a Canadian and Canadians tend to be worse than Americans (and therefore have lower percentages at most things) so maybe like 0.5%. Even if we account for the fact that we know Isaac is famously a Magic player and TD, from Bayesian reasoning we probably shouldn’t go higher than like 10-15%

@IsaacKing it would really help me bet on this if I knew which of the listed games you have already played, since the description seems to say games you already played are ineligible to resolve Yes (? can you confirm that?).

@Eliza Games disqualified because I've played them before:

• Chess

• Monopoly

• Age of Empires (Not sure if I played II specifically but I'll count the series since they're not that different)

• Magic: The Gathering

• Terraforming Mars

• Civilization VI (I'm not sure if I played VI, but I played a ton of V and I have a vague recollection of briefly testing out VI)

• Poker

• Universal Paperclips

• Cellcraft

• Kerbal Space Program (Come on guys, it literally mentions this one in the description)

• Factorio

There are also a few that I have a vague recollection of the name, but can't remember if I've played them, I would have to check:

• Airport CEO

• Plague Inc: Evolved

• Europa Universalis

• Poly Bridge

And answers disqualified for not being games:

• Cool Math Games

• Duolingo

I guess for all the ones I don't remember I shouldn't disqualify them, because the point of this market is for me to learn about new ways to teach people, and if I don't remember them then clearly I'm not already aware. So those 4 are still in.

@IsaacKing (Is this a thing where you can N/A already-played-games so it’s safe to bet without knowing what you’ve played?)

@TannerNewell They can't be N/A'd, but we could edit the titles to indicate they're ineligible.

@Eliza Good idea, done

Hmm, is it possible to convert a linked multi-choice market to unlinked? This would let me resolve answers one by one like I do on /IsaacKing/what-games-will-i-enjoy-playing-wit-cbf45af4ff9d, would be a better format.

@IsaacKing Sadly, that can't be done.