Refunds, replacements, returns, etc. do not count. It must be action that comes from legal system enforcement, either successful lawsuits or fines.
Fines or other judgments in non-US countries may not be accepted for resolution, unless there are many of them (more than 3 countries)
close date will be extended has been extended, and will continue to be extended if someone can prove there is pending action or likely action. Otherwise, it closes at the set date.
context:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer-says-company-faked-full-autopilot/
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This has been extended a fair bit as there are several lawsuits of differing natures that exist, but I have no idea if any cite this example.
If anyone wants to check this Wikipedia page, you can find a reason to extend it again. Otherwise, I intend to resolve it NO in the next week or so..
There is two claims
“Full-Self Driving claim”; and
“Deceptive Autopilot and Full Self-Driving advertising”
But I can’t see anywhere that it references the demonstration, just the delays in timelines.
I extended the close date even though it was a month out because I don't want anyone to get randomly baited into thinking it will resolve in a month. I will boost the market though so hopefully activity can increase as it would have if we were nearing the real close date.
Having said that, if there is nothing pending/active/likely by June30th (I don't think this will be the case) then I will close it then anyway. Any time after the original close date (June 30th) I will be happy to close it once it seems like they have "gotten away with it"
Not technically directly related but it's sure suggestive of what we're likely to see in the future from the EU: https://jalopnik.com/whistleblower-drops-100-gigabytes-of-tesla-secrets-to-g-1850476542
https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/27/23700339/tesla-autopilot-lawsuit-2018-elon-musk-claims-deepfakes
There are some ongoing lawsuits that are citing the staged autopilot footage, it's hard to know exactly how related it all is, but autopilot death seems direct enough for me.
I guess I need to scuttle my original position, then? Because big companies get sued all the time, over much less serious stuff - if the only criteria is "a lawsuit" then there's probably already several and this is rated way too low.
Now, if the question is "will they be successfully sued over it?" then the percentage a smidge high, I think.
@AndrewHartman I apologise, it does need to be successful action. If you changed your position because of this and faced a loss, I will compensate
@Gen Oh, nah, I don't recall what the original title was. I just noticed I had a NO position on a market that sure seemed like a sure YES bet, so I presumed I missed the fine print the first time around.
@AndrewHartman Uh, but to clarify: if it has to be successful, then yeah, I'm sticking with NO.
Change the title to something less misleading like "Will Tesla face legal action over accusations of staging Autopilot demonstrations in 2016?"
@ZZZZZZ If someone else came forward and said they faked newer demonstrations, I’d still count it. Any legal action relating to fake autopilot marketing would resolve this YES
Appreciate the suggestion, I’ve changed the title a bit. I don’t think it’s too misleading given the context provided in the description.
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