Will we beat @ithildulin's Swiftle Rapid record by end of school year?
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closes Jun 10
61%
chance

"We" refers to either me or any team including me (but not @ithildulin (Amelia)). Most likely the latter, because while I'm definitely still improving, my current record is 57, while hers is 600 (and she could've gone longer).

Anyway, I haven't yet found time to attempt the game as a team with other people in person (we tried on Zoom but it's hard to hear over the music), but I expect it to dramatically increase the score once we do. (It's the Swiss cheese model! The game is streak-based, so we can only lose if everyone fails to recognize the song within the 10 seconds.)

Resolves YES if the Swiftle Rapid record of teams including me is higher than @ithildulin's at any time before the school year, and NO if that doesn't happen.

If this resolves YES, I will reclaim my stuffed gravestone Felice, who she is temporarily taking care of.

General policy for my markets: In the rare event of a conflict between my resolution criteria and the agreed-upon common-sense spirit of the market, I may resolve it according to the market's spirit or N/A, probably after discussion.

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amzoeee avatar
zweeis predicting NO at 41%

@ithildulin wait the gravestone is jacob's???? how come i never knew this

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 36%

@amzoeee LOL i've been better at swiftle for too long (@Conflux look, people are starting to forget felice's true parent smh you should be ashamed)

Conflux avatar
Confluxbought Ṁ150 of YES

@ithildulin I’ve been busyyyyyyy

alleycat avatar
alleycatsold Ṁ42 of NO

wait @Conflux what if amelia is on the "team including you"?

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 32%

@alleycat i won't be dw

Conflux avatar
Confluxbought Ṁ50 of YES

@alleycat Oh good point. That’d be very funny, but I’ll edit to say that it wouldn’t count

amzoeee avatar
zweebought Ṁ20 of NO

oh my good luck amelia

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 43%

@amzoeee thank you, i won't need it

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 43%

@amzoeee i might need the patience to go for 1k though

amzoeee avatar
zweeis predicting NO at 44%

@ithildulin good luck having the patience

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 47%

So what should I listen to first?

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 48%

@8 omg yes

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 48%

@8 um probably like debut? just bc i think other people tend to not know it as well (jacob, andrew, etc.) but idrk. anyone else have suggestions?

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 32%

@8 damn the taylor swift hater listening to her songs just to take me in swiftle, look what you need to do to mimic a fraction of my power

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 44%

@ithildulin im sacrificing my morals here

jcb avatar
jcbbought Ṁ40 of YES

if i study hard can i be on team conflux?

Conflux avatar
Confluxbought Ṁ10 of YES(edited)

@jcb appreciate the support but the logistics may be hard

We actually did try to play this game via zoom and it was hard to hear over the music (I added that to the description)

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 42%

for zoom you might want to experiment with headphones and the "original sound for musicians" setting to get full duplex audio

Conflux avatar
Confluxis predicting YES at 42%

@jcb perhaps! In person might be easier than troubleshooting that though

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 42%

@Conflux yeah totally. uh, I guess I'll let you know if I get good and then you can decide whether it's worth a try!

Conflux avatar
Confluxsold Ṁ16 of YES

@jcb gl!

What’s your current level of TS song knowledge?

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 47%

@Conflux uhhhhhhh pretty casual but I believe in myself

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 47%

I'm going to the LA show at the beginning of august so I'm due to study up anyway. when does school end?

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 47%

@jcb i just realized i didn't factor in the "random people on manifold will help out" bit, hoping there are no swiftie sharks on here

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 47%

@ithildulin HELLO ITS ME THE SWIFTIE SHARK

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 47%

@jcb school ends 6/9 (lol)

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 47% (edited)

@jcb ok, tbh i kinda feel like being awesome at Swiftle Rapid requires a specific skillset. Amelia is obviously insane!! But I know every single Taylor Swift song by heart (including all songs she's been featured on, special/limited edition songs, most unreleased songs, etc.), and I'm still nowhere near her level. Amelia's a similarly big fan, but she's also just like incredibly naturally good at recognizing what the song title is fast (whereas sometimes I have to sing through the song in my head for a bit before I realize what song it is, and consequently run out of time before i can fast-forward through enough of it).

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 47% (edited)

@alleycat And @Conflux tries to get around his lack of knowledge of some TS stuff (cough cough *debut* cough cough) by memorizing lists of songs to try out when he doesn't recognize it, or by studying up on things specific to the game (we think it tends to give you a lot of the same songs? we don't rly know how the algorithm works... and also according to jacob, it only ever starts at time codes ending in 00 or something? lol). but that's good strategy for the game i guess, even if he should still just go listen to the songs he doesnt know -.- ! ANYWAY i think as a team we'll probably do significantly better? definitely we'll do at least somewhat better on average :)

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 47%

@Conflux do you have particular strong/weak eras? I was planning on learning across the board, but alternatively I could focus on particular albums, or songs that weren't singles, or something like that!

having 6 people get really dialed on ~30 songs each could be a really strong strategy.

Conflux avatar
Confluxis predicting YES at 43% (edited)

@alleycat @jcb I'm weakest on debut/Fearless/Speak Now; I think I'm pretty good with them these days but for this game you really gotta be perfect.

I find it fun to reverse-engineer and come up with strategies that don't require actually fully learning the songs: I think each song only has a few clips, which means less you need to be solid on, and they tend to start at time codes ending in 0 (which indicates the songs were chunked into 10-second clips and then random ones were selected) but there are some irregularities with the 0 thing. I did also make some mnemonic devices for typing the songs I don't know quickly, which helps on the margins. But I did cave and make a swiftle study playlist too...

anyway I'm not convinced we're not gonna slay when we actually do it as a team in person, we just haven't tried that yet

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 43%

@alleycat definitely agreed; you know more taylor songs than me by far lolol. the interesting thing about me is that when listening to music my brain usually snaps to the "vibe" of a song (production, effects, and general mood), which happens to grant me an insane advantage to this game

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 48% (edited)

@alleycat Yeah it's super interesting!! You're also way better than me at the lyric game lol. But yeah another weird thing is that I almost always know immediately which album a song is from intuitively, but not which actual song it is? idk. it's interesting and cool how different people's brains work like this tho!

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 48%

@alleycat oh that's interesting, huh

they should make an album swiftle

jcb avatar
jcbis predicting YES at 44%

another weird thing is that I almost always know immediately which album a song is from intuitively, but not which actual song it is?

Same for me! It has been super interesting to notice a bit about how my recall works here as I started drilling on this some. I'm pretty decent at identifying "it's... that... one!" without being able to produce the title. Often I can hum or sing along but literally have no idea what the title is (in some cases I didn't even recognize it when given). I think this is because I usually listen to a whole album at a time and just don't form the audio<->name associations for individual tracks. I do much better identifying titles on hits, where I've heard the individual song while out and about and had an opportunity to form a standalone association.

This all goes extra for instrumental snippets. For individual songs I do know, a lot of my pattern matching seems to be on the vocals (lyrics/timbre/production). Lacking vocals, the instrumentation/production still identify the album pretty reliably, but keeping the random hookless guitar fills straight is so hard.

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 48%

@jcb Yeah!! I can always sing along, but figuring out the title is hard. (Also I do sometimes listen to her music album by album, but I often just shuffle the complete collection, so idk.) The associations are just weird I guess

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 50%

WAIT 600 WHAT

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 47%

@8 IKR

8 avatar
Trong

i finished conservatory this should be easy . like dictations, but easier !!!

ithildulin avatar
Ameliabought Ṁ50 of NO

@8 i wish you luck

8 avatar
Trongbought Ṁ10 of YES

@ithildulin OH GOD ITS 24 HOURS OF LISTENING I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS

ithildulin avatar
Ameliais predicting NO at 50%

@8 i'll literally pay you 20 bucks if you can get to 100 by the end of the school year

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 50%

@ithildulin oh deal

Conflux avatar
Confluxbought Ṁ10 of YES

@8 Each song only has a few 10s clips that are actually in the game, so you don’t technically need to listen to the full songs! (Although we have to reverse engineer which clips they are)

8 avatar
Trongis predicting YES at 50%

@Conflux good to know

alleycat avatar
alleycatis predicting NO at 47%

@8 YES TRENT JOIN US!!!!!!

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