Regarding the DGG Drama being discussed here. If your answer is to vague I will resolve to NA.
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Why did Divorce resolve YES? I didn't listen to the whole stream, so maybe he talked more about it later, but I just heard him answer "Are you and Melina finalizing the divorce?" with
I don't know. All I wanted was... because of things that have happened... I wanted a [...] post nuptial agreement signed so that all my shit is safe so I feel at least I'm not gonna get blindsided by some wild shit. Regardless of anger I've had against Melina [...] Melina's not the kind of person... I don't think she's would be the kind of person who would go after somebody's money. But she had no problem signing a post nuptial agreement. So we signed all that so I'm not losing any of my shit, even if we do end up signing for divorce in a few months, because maybe we will I don't know if we will or not [...] I'm not losing anything"
You said that to resolve YES "there must be or have been a serious intention of carrying it out". There's obviously no intention of carrying it out now or in the near future, so there would have to be some evidence that they planned on divorcing before. Is there any evidence of that? I would not count the post nuptial agreement as evidence, as that just shows that divorce was a worry for Destiny and something which was discussed, but you've said that this would resolve NO if the divorce was simply "on the table".
@Pazzaz a lot of people don't know anything about divorce and just use it as another word for breakup, but for marriage. If that is the colloquial term and a vast majority of users including the market maker interpret the question in that manner, that's a bullet to bite on this website. Even if they would be factually wrong.
I would still be interested in hearing @BenAdams reasoning for himself.
@Pazzaz Melina confirmed a few days ago that they were getting divorced, but didn't go into details. Could be she just wanted to confirm they are seperating, but based on this it looks like at least Mel intended to divorce https://clips.twitch.tv/PlacidDifferentKimchiMau5-SAyRYV8XYclwZrw0
@Pazzaz He has been talking about this whole thing as "his divorce" for the past week. The way he talked about it seems like he was sure they were divorcing two days ago and now he is pretty sure they are divorcing but not sure. To bring back my example
"For instance, if Destiny says "Mel decided she was going to divorce me, and this was going to be the original drama stream however we had a 5-hour therapy session, and she changed her mind" this will resolve YES."
What seems to have happened is this in reverse. Mel did crazy stuff and Steven said he was divorcing her but now maybe it's not going to happen. I think it's hard to have any other interpretation if you have been watching stream
-nvm it was posted already-
@Agh >The only reason to sign the post nuptial is because divorce is a serious option on the table.
That's just obviously wrong. Even if it's the most likely reason another reasonable reason from the top of my head would be to show good faith to try and build trust to salvage the marriage.
@Agh But it doesn't matter if divorce is a serious option on the table, at least one of them has to have had the intention to actually divorce. I haven't heard Destiny actually say that but as other people have shown, Melina did say on her stream that they were getting a divorce, which shows actual intention. So I'm fine with the resolution now :)
@AlexKirigiya probably will still count as YES based on the market creator's comment below: https://manifold.markets/BenAdams/what-is-the-dgg-drama-arriving-abou#JYMn6bY7UbD34EEXXpnY
@MagniorBjornsson Destiny announced a drama stream in anticipation of himself and Melina splitting up. They had a 5 hour therapy session which seemed to make it so they might not split up, so the drama stream was postponed/canceled. But the therapy session was not enough and the relationship did in fact end.
Any good faith interpretation of the criteria clearly resolves YES
@Tumbles Why did you link a "Santa Paws" to clarify the criteria? Also stating that any other interpretation is bad faith, is pretty bad faith.
I can see why "Divorce" can be interpreted from the situation. But if Destiny and Melina had simply decided to divorce because things weren't working out, he wouldn't be making a drama about it. I can see him making a drama about it if Melina came out of nowhere and wanted a divorce. But it is Destiny himself that is initiating the end of their relationship. Because of the drama involving Melina's decisions around Memetix. So to me the Memetix situation is what the drama is all about. Resulting in breakup and most likely a divorce.
@MagniorBjornsson Woops fixed the link
>But if Destiny and Melina had simply decided to divorce because things weren't working out, he wouldn't be making a drama about it.
This is nonsense on its face. Divorce happens for reasons, and those reasons can be dramatic
>So to me the Memetix situation is what the drama is all about. Resulting in breakup and most likely a divorce.
Yes, exactly. That is why those two options are the ones that will resolve YES. The drama is about a relationship issue they have had for years culminating in divorce. The December 1st stream Destiny announced was about them splitting up. Destiny was going to use the announcement to plead his case that he wasn't the (only) one creating all the drama in their relationship. He wanted to do such a stream because he was frustrated that the greater narrative is that Destiny is the one who always dates crazy people, and now that he and Mel were splitting he could finally clear the air. Destiny has already explicitly stated all of this in DGG chat.
@Tumbles Your own reasoning here states that Destiny's reason to talk about it on stream was to rewrite a narrative that irks him and air out Melina's behaviour. That he could finally do because he was ending their relationship.
That is my case; That the drama is driving force and the marriage ending is the vehicle.
Ultimately it's up @BenAdams to decide when the time comes. I'm just betting on how I see the criteria and the situation.
@MagniorBjornsson Your own reasoning here states that Destiny's reason to talk about the memetix situation on stream was to rewrite a narrative that irks him and air out Melina's behaviour.
That is my case; That the narrative around his relationship is the driving force and the memetix situation is the vehicle.
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I have to respect that you are relentlessly in the trenches trying to help promote the Smash/Manifold crossover 🤣
Who is Memetix?
@Tumbles His name is not in the logs? I have no idea who this is. Never heard of him this is all I can find on google Memetix (@memetix) Official | TikTok
@BenAdams I think Memetix is the guy Destiny was talking about. The guy that asked Mel to divorce Destiny.
@Tumbles that meme guy is giga soy and has been streaming a lot with mel lately so he fits the bill. Gnomey could be talking about literally anyone else though