@whhatisachoice This can resolve NO, thank you!

Betting small position on yes because if Trump has Vance teach him how to debate and then decides to ride his current momentum on another debate, that would be wild

I think they'll have another debate after the election.

@ConnorDolan 👀

If both go on Rogan at the same time does that count as a debate?

@kurt

Harris agrees to Fox debate, Trump runs away screaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTu6RgPu8M&ab_channel=MSNBC

Trump decided he wants to talk at women instead of talking to a woman. I can understand the sentiment but it's not going to help him win the election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/business/media/trump-fox-women-town-hall.html

hey folks the resolution date is now Nov 5, it explicitly says so when you look at the resolution date :)

@whhatisachoice No. This is not what I am predicting up for!

@CryptoNeoLiberalist BAHAHAHAHHA

@whhatisachoice Ok, is this the laughter of joy?

https://manifold.markets/whhatisachoice/should-i-extend-the-resolution-date

should I extend the resolution date on the question?

50% chance. here is the question https://manifold.markets/whhatisachoice/will-donald-agree-to-a-second-deba apparantly I shouldn't use the resolution date as a resolution criteria as @jack let me know [link preview]

no time for a debate, hes going on rogan

Will this market be extended to November 5?

@10thOfficial Why? Are there any talks between the two campaigns about another debate? Debate season is over.

@becauseyoudo No reason, just curious.

@becauseyoudo Biden-Trump debated on Oct 22 in 2020

@10thOfficial nope

@whhatisachoice Excellent, thank you!

@kurt no problem :)

@whhatisachoice So will this question resolve No on October 30th if there is no debate by then? Or will you wait until the election to resolve? @ManifoldPolitics what about sweeps version?

@bagelfan I can't answer for the sweeps version unfortunately, I'm planning to resolve on the resolution date.

@whhatisachoice But what about the (very small) chance that there is a debate scheduled between Oct 30 and election day?

@bagelfan Did the close date change? Didn't you place your bet with that being the close date?

@ChrisLloyd I'm not upset at all as a No bettor (on sweeps version) that it might resolve early, but the question is currently misrepresented in the title and description. I don't know about other people but when I place bets I usually read title and description but don't look at close date.

In general, authors should not use the close date as a deadline or part of the resolution criteria unless explicitly specified. Imagine a market "will trump be elected president again?" that had a close date in August - reading that as "will trump be elected president by August?" would be plainly ridiculous if it isn't explicitly written that way, the close date can be set for many other reasons or the author might not set it at all and just use whatever manifold put there

@jack so is the sweeps version going to be open till the election? also the close date is explicitly specified, I explicitly specified when the question was created and it is one of the first things under the title of the question, why would someone placing a bet not assume the question will close at the close date?

@bagelfan one of the criteria for questions being chosen for sweeps is when they are not misrepresented and are clear to resolve

@jack anyway I feel like this is fairly trivial, if resolving the question on the resolve date is against some manifold policy then I can update the resolve date, I feel as though the unless a question mentions the resolution date will be extended or can be extended then traders should and do place bets considering the resolution date.

@whhatisachoice The timeframe should be reflected in the description, not just in the close date. Currently the title and description would be interpreted as a debate between Oct 30 and the election would count.

I would recommend you push the close date back to the election and update description to mention that this is asking about debates up to the election since I think that's how people here have been betting (I don't see anyone talking about the Oct 30 deadline when arguing for a particular side).

@bagelfan my dude there are 2 people arguing for pushing the deadline on a question with 1100 traders, hardly points to how people may or may not be thinking about the question.

i understand the edge case so I'll push the date.

@whhatisachoice Nobody can tell whether or why the author chose a close date or not unless it's written it in the description. It's a close date, not a resolve date. Often people use it for other purposes, but all it literally means is trading closes then, but it can change at any time. Some questions close before the deadline for the question. Other questions are set to a random close date by accident.

This is a very very commonly point of confusion for both authors and traders, and I keep asking manifold to fix it. But in the meantime all I can do is tell authors never to implictly use the close date for resolution purposes, and instead to explicitly specify on what date or conditions the question resolves.

This comment is just to help authors avoid confusion generally, it's not at all a big deal with this market.

@jack I get what you mean now