Will 10 or more users ask in Discord where to find loans today?
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Manifold recently pushed a new UI that no longer prominently displays a loan icon for users to collect a daily loan. Will ten or more users ask for help finding the new button in Discord by end-of-day 2024-02-09?

After talking it through with a mod, I think resolution criteria should broaden to inquiries about the daily button change. This is because earlier reported tally counts were inclusive of questions like, "So, uh, are daily loans still a thing?", "did manifold remove loans">"ok then where is the button", and "so uh, there's no more loan button ?"; which were presumably posted after the user didn't find the daily location, as they were all immediately followed by dialogue about the daily loan button's new location.

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@traders After talking it through with a mod, I think resolution criteria should broaden to inquiries about the daily button change. This is because earlier reported tally counts were inclusive of questions like, "So, uh, are daily loans still a thing?", "did manifold remove loans">"ok then where is the button", and "so uh, there's no more loan button ?"; which were presumably posted after the user didn't find the daily location, as they were all immediately followed by dialogue about the daily loan button's new location.


I think I should ask before resolution, though -- Any thoughts or concerns?

@snazzlePop As there are no more 'No' holders, I think I'm safe to resolve 'Yes' without ruffling any feathers. Here's a tally of users with their questions:

1. marcus ("can anyone tell me where the loan button is now?")

2. snazzlePop ("So, uh, are daily loans still a thing?")

3. TheBayesian ("Hey by the way how do u collect a loan around these parts")

4. calvin ("Alright I'll bite where did the loan button go?")

5. Noit ("I’m here to ask and too lazy to scrub the GitHub code. Someone dm me to preserve the integrity of the market.")

6. Savio Mak ( asked "did manifold remove loans", then : "ok then where is the button")

7. a egg ("hey ahh this is me asking where the loan button went, for completely organic reasons")

8. sarius ("yeah uhhhh where did the loan button go? 🤞")

9. AsunaSaturn ("So who broke loan? lol")

9. RemNi ("so uh, there's no more loan button ?")

9. Eliza ("where is the loan button?")

10. Agh ("wait, where is the loan button again?")

P.S. Devs / any Manifold staff who care about UX, are you seeing this?

Oof someone gave away where to find it on the discord. We'll see if there's gonna be a 10

I believe RemNi counts as number 9. So close!

@snazzlePop What if they just ask if Manifold removed loans?

@Eliza I would argue the user has to assume the feature still exists but doesn't know where the button is to qualify. The description says "ask for help finding the new button" and the title says "where to find loans”, a user can't do either if they don't start with the assumption that the feature still exists.

@Calvin6b82 That’s a good point.

@Calvin6b82 upon further review and discussion with a mod, I'm going to modify the resolution criteria to broaden to include inquiries about the daily loan change. this is because earlier counts of users asking included questions like ""So, uh, are daily loans still a thing?" and "so uh, there's no more loan button ?" both of which were immediately followed by conversations about looking for the new loan button.

bought Ṁ10 YES

Easy yes.

But which end-of-day time zone?

@Eliza Pacific. Same as Manifold regarding new daily loans

There’s been 4 in the first hour

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