What will be true of the debate: Destiny/Morris v Finkelstein/Rabbani on Lex Fridman [prop bets, free response]
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YES
Finkelstein/Rabbani will end with at least 5 more minutes of total talk time than Destiny/Morris
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NO
Morris, Finkelstein OR Rabbani average more WPM than Destiny
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YES
More than 10 minutes is spent discussing the 2000 Camp David Summit
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YES
Finkelstein or Rabbani equate the Israeli government to Hamas
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NO
there is talk from one or both sides about the Abraham Accords
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NO
The Tantura Controversy is mentioned.
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NO
Any debate participant says (during the video) that they changed their mind on something because of the debate
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NO
Someone refers/equates Gaza or Palestine to a concentration camp
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NO
Finkelstein says the Iron Dome doesn't work/is fake/similar statement
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NO
Destiny insults Finkelstein directly by calling him a name (for ex. "what you're saying is stupid" doesn't count but "you're an idiot" does)
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NO
Destiny's recent tweets are mentioned (anything spicy from last week)
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NO
Finkelstein quotes from Morris' work more than 10 times.
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NO
Destiny poses a hypothetical (specifically calling it - ex. "hypothetically..." or "imagine..." or similar before describing a scenario) within the first 1 hour
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NO
Someone suggests Finkelstein is a self-hating Jew or calls him one (includes "self-loathing" or similar)
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NO
Finkelstein/Rabbani refer to slavery or abolitionists/abolitionism
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NO
Destiny says "Jesus Christ" but NOT in the context of actually/literally referring to Jesus
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NO
Destiny uses the phrase “no shot” at least once
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NO
Aaron Bushnell is mentioned
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NO
Someone cites (by quoting) a passage from the Quran
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NO
Someone says 'retard' or 'retarded'

Lex Fridman is hosting another topical Israel v. Palestine debate on his podcast. This time, the sides are:

Palestine: Norm Finkelstein, Mouin Rabbani
Israel: Benny Morris, Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

The debate is being recorded in the next few days and should be published shortly after. This is a market for prop bets on what will happen during the debate.

This market will resolve to the debate itself, not including content of Lex's introduction before the show.

Add your own answers, but please be as clear and objective as possible. I'll likely n/a vibes-based responses or ask for clarity to make them more concrete where possible. Since response costs (now M50 per) have gone up, please feel free to comment below if you want me to add the option for you.

For swift resolution, add proof or timestamps in your comment.

eta: please reply as a comment on the option you want resolved to make resolution clearer.

Response notes:

  • If a response word or phrase is in quotations, that exact word or phrase must be used

  • A mention doesn't require a segment or discussion - if a word/topic/concept is uttered at some point, it will resolve Yes

  • Talk about means there is a notable discussion about the topic. For some this may be interpreted subjectively but at a baseline, talking about a topic means it's not mentioned in passing or glossed over and there's some meaningful exchange of information about the topic.

  • If an option is added for a place, I will accept either the place or a city within. For example, if an option says "someone mentions Ukraine" but only Kyiv enters the conversation, this resolves Yes.


Lex Fridman on YT
Destiny on YT

Norman Finkelstein on YT

I'll extend the close date as necessary but I assume the debate will be up by mid-March at the latest. If for any reason the debate is canceled, the market will N/A.

eta: if for any reason Morris or Rabbani are not involved in this debate, this market is still valid.



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ack sorry everyone it's been a busy few days and this one slipped through the cracks - sorry to leave it so long I'll get this resolved tonight.

This one is a clear no.

@shankypanky did you listen to the whole thing?, 😭

@RanaG yes of course - why?

@shankypanky tooooo long. How do you do it? 😭

@RanaG I like/prefer longform podcasts, I was looking forward to listening to this, and I wouldn't punish myself by creating (or betting on) prop bets on something I would hate listening to - that would be self sacrificial lol

@shankypanky what's your listening routine? Do you walk? Sit and watch from the 100th floor? Bath?

@RanaG my secret is having a fucked up sense of priorities and everything else pretty much falls into place from there

@shankypanky is that a good thing or a bad thing? 😂

@shankypanky just finished it - it was actually very engaging. I did not expect I would pay attention to all of it. Loved Norm's reactions 😂

Ooof

so this (Yes) and the WPM (No) options seem pretty easy to determine intuitively but I'm going to defer to the DGGs @Agh and/or @dgga (or anyone, really) to comment here with evidence when it comes - there's a guy who always posts this kind of info in Reddit? 🧡

@shankypanky yeah I would bet it will get posted in a few days. (should make a market about whether it will 🤔 🤔 ) In the meanwhile I do recommend skimming through the sub, the debate spawned some banger memes

@dgga lmao I saw this one on twitter it's so good 😂😂

@dgga 😂

@shankypanky A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

@dgga I studied Wikipedia to learn more about the names for a rose before reacting to this comment

@shankypanky Mr. Pimpinelli would be proud of you, a true Wiki Warrior following in his footsteps 🥲

@shankypanky ...it seems like no one did make a graph out of these. I have been browsing the sub pretty pretty comprehensively and there hasn't been anything on this front

@dgga probably because it's obvious 😂

😂 😂 gotta play the long game sometimes I guess

(thankfully this was such an obvious one the chart only supports the resolution lol)

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