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Will Kirk Cousins receive at least $100 million fully guaranteed in his next contract?
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resolved Mar 14
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N/A

Will use https://overthecap.com/ as source for this information.

Note that fully guaranteed money is different than simply "guaranteed" money, which often includes money that is guaranteed for injury only, etc.

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Ultimately I’ve elected to resolve this N/A.

While the true answer is NO, As folks noted many traded off the info source being temporarily incorrect.

@SethWalder When I woke up this morning and saw this notification, my initial reaction was quite strongly that it should be NO, but the more I've thought about it the more I think NA is fairest, so I just want to give credit for an honest resolution.

Surprised at how it's framed at OverTheCap (fully guaranteed: $100M) but that is the source we are using. So I will now resolve YES

https://overthecap.com/player/kirk-cousins/1443

@SethWalder Looks like they updated it to reflect that only $90 million is fully guaranteed.

@houstonEuler Wow, you are correct. They did! What do we do in this circumstance? Never have faced before. I’ll see if it will let me resolve to No.

@SethWalder Doesn’t look like it. Anyone know protocol here?

@SethWalder And to be clear: this should in my view change to No now that the source has updated

@SethWalder I feel stupid for selling all my No shares and buying Yes after the source showed 100.

I think resolving Yes, No, or NA all have their justifications, so it's your call.

Edit: you can ask a mod to unresolve it, so that it can be resolved correctly.

@houstonEuler People (myself included) were betting based on what OTC published. I think leaving it as is or n/a is fair

@kurt I think you’re probably right in retrospect. I have requested to undo one more time to set to NA

bought Ṁ125 NO

The way I'm reading the news, the $50 million signing bonus is included in the $90 million fully guaranteed figure that's been reported. There's an additional $10 million that becomes guaranteed after March 2025, but because there's the potential for it not being paid if he's cut, I believe that means it won't count as "fully guaranteed".

I could very easily be wrong though.

bought Ṁ300 YES

@houstonEuler Nevermind, looks like they're counting it as 100 million fully guaranteed on overthecap

I will wait until OverTheCap has the contract to be sure but based on this information this question would resolve No -- that is $90 million fully guaranteed.

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1767261545157824584/history

(I will refrain from betting any more on this market)

@SethWalder I might be misreading but isn't 50M signing bonus separate from the 2024-25 fully guaranteed 45M per?

@kurt No I'm quite certain that is included in fully guaranteed number (it is just how much money he gets immediately and has cap timing implications -- the money from signing bonuses are spread evenly throughout the duration of the contract in terms of the salary cap)

bought Ṁ80 NO

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767261025324134892?s=19

Not sure how this resolves. The reported number is 100M but I bet on No since some of it may not be fully guaranteed

@ChinmayTheMathGuy Whats the difference between guaranteed and fully guaranteed?

@kurt it's in the description, for instance Chris Jones was reported 95M guaranteed but shows up as 60M on OTC

@ChinmayTheMathGuy looks like he has 90M fully guaranteed + 50M signing bonus. Is that not 140M fully guaranteed?

@kurt I think the 90M includes the signing bonus.

45M per year, first two years fully guaranteed, 10M of 3rd year will be guaranteed a year from now.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1767278100868452490?s=19