Will GPT-5 be fluent in Cree?
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NO

Will the successor model to GPT-4 be able to correctly translate the following sentences into Cree and back, while preserving the original meaning?

1) Please lock the door after 6PM, thanks

2) I am feeling really bad, I think I need to go to the hospital

3) Two hours of Thai massage is a bit too much

4) Is this granola gluten free?

Currently, GPT-4 fails or refuses to translate. Cree is the most widely spoken native language in Canada. There are multiple Cree dialects. If the translation works for any dialect, using the relevant syllabary (not the trasliteration) then I will resolve YES.

If no GPT-5 or equivalent model is released by Dec. 31 2026, I will resolve NA.

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@mods can i get uhhh

lol which gpt-5 model is this?

@Bayesian whatever they tossed my way for free

@brubsby gpt-5-chat. do you see the difference in quality

Wow! o3 basically gets it near-perfectly. The only one that's incorrect is 1), as far as I can tell.

@Bayesian this is better than the last time I checked, but it is rendering the Cree text using Latin characters. For the question to resolve YES it has to use the native script.

Is "ᑖᐻ ᑭᓌᐚᐸᒫᑎᓇᐤ ᐃᐢᑵᐤ ᐋᓴᔭ 6PM, ᑭᓇᓈᐢᑯᒥᑎᐣ" is a good enough translation?

Edit: gpt-4 translate it back as "Please, women, we will meet tomorrow at 6PM, thank you." I still don't know how bad the translation & back-translation each are.

@Joern In my case it would just refuse to translate back, suggesting that I ask an expert in Cree. That’s arguably better than translating into random gibberish

@Joern If it can’t get the round trip translation right that’s already a bad sign

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