If a group attacks someone who kills some of them in self defense, did the surviving attack group members commit murder?
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The question is asking whether you think it should be classified as murder, not whether technically the legal system does so right now.

Inspired by this passage from the Wikipedia Article on the Zizian murder cult, where a definition of murder that seems very bizarre to me is used:

On November 15, 2022, Lind, then 80, was, according to his own account, attacked by a group of people after being called in to fix a water leak. He said he was struck in the head, stabbed repeatedly (leaving "about 50" puncture wounds), and cut severely on the back of his neck ("like somebody was trying to cut my head off"). He was left impaled by a samurai sword, and his right eye was punctured three times, blinding him in that eye.

After he regained consciousness, he shot two of those involved in the altercation, killing 31-year-old Emma Borhanian and wounding the other. Both had been arrested alongside LaSota at a 2019 protest against an event organized by the Center for Applied Rationality (CFAR), and Borhanian had reported LaSota's 2022 alleged drowning.

Two of Lind's alleged attackers were charged with Borhanian's murder under the theory that their actions precipitated Lind's self-defense, under California's felony murder rule. LaSota was contacted by police during the investigation but was not charged.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizians

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