Why is Trumps bullet wound not visible in recent pictures of his ear?
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Ṁ9517
Dec 31
92%
Barely got hit (No major injury needed to heal)
71%
Makeup on wound (including prosthetic makeup)
43%
Healed extremely quickly
38%
Obscured by ear folds
29%
Wound is localized behind ear
19%
Hidden by hair
18%
There was no bullet wound to begin with
12%
Great Plastic Surgeon
9%
Wasn't actually hit by anything
4%
The pictures actually show the other ear that was not hit
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If you look carefully at photos you literally can see some remnants of the injury. This is such a nothingburger lol

yeah this is brutal

bought Ṁ35 YES

"Healed extremely quickly" should resolve yes whenever "no major wound needed to heal" resolves yes, so it's weird that their percentages are so different.

sold Ṁ0 NO

@Sodra What sources (or is it opinions, polls, vibes, your subjective judgement?) will be used to resolve these? Thanks.

also curious about this ^ and which pictures you plan to use to make your determination. @Sodra

@Sodra brother?

Seems the author's inactive for a week or so, we might need @mods help with this one.

yeah im not sure how a mod could help other than N/A as these were mostly bets on the author's opinions

Perhaps some N/A but surely not all options? It seems to me the referenced market in the description reveals the author's intention to align with that market for the most obvious cases:

Some answers may still resolve YES if https://manifold.markets/DismalScientist/did-trump-get-shot resolves NO.

Since that market resolved YES, it suggests some options here should not contradict that, and as far as I can tell there's at least two options that can resolve based on that criteria: "There was no bullet wound to begin with" and "Wasn't actually hit by anything" must be NO, else it contradicts the reference. I don't know about the others, but some seem rather silly ("pics of wrong ear" NO) or obvious ("healed quickly" and "barely hit" YES).

I'm not comfortable resolving any of these until much, much, more information comes out on his injury.

sold Ṁ133 NO

@Sodra Okay. what sources/pictures do you plan on using to make your determinations? thanks.

oh, whoops

We don't even know what the wound really looked like in the first place. I'm waiting for some sort of reliable reconstruction of the incident, expert testimony, statements from the white house or secret service, etc.

What? there's plenty of photos of the wound, plenty of expert testimony (local police, FBI, SS, congresspeople, witnesses, but what does the WH has to do with any of it??), tons of reconstructions, the market you referenced resolved and that author posted all the positive evidence in their extensive writeup. This is absurd, and probably a scam market @mods

Clearly I can't be trusted to resolve this market without making a fuss.

I made this market because I myself didn't understand what was going on with the whole AP image controversy. Even now, I don't see (what I would consider) clear images of the wound, without blood in the way, to determine the initial state of the wound compared to after it healed.

It's not a scam, I just genuinely don't know how I should resolve this market, and I assumed the correct options would get >90% of the votes, like most other markets with definitive answers.

@jacksonpolack if you would like to resolve it however you were before, be my guest.

Market creators are allowed (and, in my opinion, should be encouraged) to wait for more evidence before resolving!

I attempted to resolve it earlier because you appeared to inactive, you're free to keep it open if you want. It's the kind of market where creator judgement matters a lot, and manifold policy isn't to intervene if the creator's behaving reasonably, and 'waiting for more evidence' is generally reasonable.

It may be "generally reasonable" to wait for more evidence, but in this particular case it is indeed most unreasonable to ask for more evidence on the two options I'm talking about: whether he was hit by anything at all, and whether it was a bullet. If reasonable people can't agree on those after watching all the videos, and after seeing the FBI director state "100% no doubt, never was a doubt" about it being a bullet, then I can't imagine what kind of evidence it would require.

For example, the creator asked for "statements from the white house" which any reasonable person should know would be completely irrelevant.

They also want to "wait for some sort of reliable reconstruction of the incident" which has been done to exhaustion, including by reputable media outlets from all sides of the political spectrum.

They also ask for "more expert testimony" which there has been to no end, including the definitive "100%" statement from FBI Deputy Director mentioned. What more do we need?

This can of course remain open for all those speculative options that I agree there is zero evidence for. Plastic surgery or makeup? Hidden by ear folds or hair? Who knows? Who cares? Wrong ear? Come on, that's a troll option. But putting those in the same epistemological level as "was not hit by anything" is just disingenuous.

Part of the idea here is that creators have broad discretion to do things that are reasonable. Not resolving any options until you intend to resolve the whole markets is something a reasonable person might do for whatever reason. It's not what I would do, but it's a personal choice, and the market doesn't specify anywhere that they won't do that.

If the creator resolved those in the 'wrong' way, there'd probably be an appeal to re-resolve it or something, but that hasn't happened!

BTW, this much controversy about a few mana is quite unproductive and totally unnecessary. I've set limits at ridiculously high prices compared to my credence for those two options. Feel free to take them so I can get outta here. You're welcome.

One clue that traders here know this is ridiculous: the two mutually exclusive options "barely got hit" and "wasn't hit by anything" currently add up to 114%. Feel free to arb those as well.

bought Ṁ50 YES

wound not visible in recent pictures (hidden by hair)

also healed extremely quickly

and barely got hit

I don't think this should N/A if the market you linked resolves No. Especially when an option 'Barely got hit' exists, which should resolve Yes in that case (you're allowing people to add answers so more options that should resolve Yes in that case may be added).

maybe right but the title here says bullet

One could add the answer 'Because he didn't have a bullet wound to begin with'.

N/A resolution is frowned upon unless really necessary these days as far as I'm aware and it's definitely not necessary in this market.

True. I guess that would resolve yes and all the others would NA maybe, we’ll see what @Sodra thinks.

I think you're right. I'll add this as an option and update the description.

@traders take note.

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