Will Eliezer's tweet on Artists needing to switch jobs in 6 to 24 months hold up?
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2025
1.3%
Within 6 months. Good Tweet.
47%
Within 7 - 24 months. Good Tweet.
52%
Not within 24 months. Tweet does not hold up.

Eliezer recently tweeted the following:

> "Saying it myself, in case that somehow helps: Most graphic artists and translators should switch to saving money and figuring out which career to enter next, on maybe a 6 to 24 month time horizon. Don't be misled or consoled by flaws of current AI systems. They're improving."

How well will this tweet hold up? I will look at the state of the graphic artist industry at the 6 month and 24 month mark respectively and evaluate if that respective option can resolve YES. If at the end of 24 months, the tweet has not yet seemed to come true, the third option will resolve YES.

Examples of the kinds of things that could make this tweet hold up:
- AI Impact on Job Market: A headline showing a significant decrease (more than 25%) in job postings for graphic artists due to advancements in AI.
- Industry Response: A leading industry organization for graphic artists issue a formal statement advising members to consider alternative career paths due to AI advancements.

I will try and be reasonable and judge based on the spirit of the question. If you have ideas for improving the criteria please let me know.

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There is a technical mismatch in numerical criteria here with the tweet reading “most” but your description reading “25%” or more of a decrease. Furthermore, the most recent comment between you and EY emphasizes “half” have left the profession and you agree to that.

Please reconcile your resolution criteria and edit your market description accordingly.

If there's a lot of postings offering to pay $10 for a prompter to do the work that an experienced artist once charged $500 for, and half the people who once drew things by hand have left the profession, I think that should count as a win even if there's still lots of "job postings".

@EliezerYudkowsky I’m fine with that.

MIDI didn’t make live music performers obsolete, and I don’t think that our current technologies will make translators and artists obsolete either. With art especially, a strong understanding of the human experience writ large is needed to make truly impactful works, and models trained on the digital slurry that is the internet don’t have that deep understanding.

Of course, the real question is “how much labor will be replaced?” The thing is: even if the capabilities of AI increase, the labor displaced might not increase at the same rate. Besides what I said above, there are several other reasons some people have for not using AI. Those reasons won’t suddenly go away if stable diffusion becomes a thousand times better.

bought Ṁ10 of Not within 24 months... YES

If you're going to base the resolution on what the high profile artists and organizations say, you're likely to conclude that the tweet won't hold up, because the well-known artists are the least likely to be replaced, and the organizations are more likely to talk based on ideology ("the evil machines can never replace our spirit!")

Instead, I suggest this: right now, pick 10 or more little artists. The kind who offer on twitter to draw your character for $50. Contact them now, ask them to take note of how many commissions they are getting now and how much pay, and then compare with how it is in a year, then in two, see if anything changes. Or, if not contact them, at least watch them - are they still around and kicking in two years, or gone belly-up?

bought Ṁ0 of Within 7 - 24 months... NO

@Tasty_Y Good idea, but I think there are lots of non-AI reasons that little artists might go belly up. It will be hard to objectively quantify if AI is the result. Also, I’d imagine the churn rate for newbies is higher than the churn rate for experienced professionals, right?

bought Ṁ10 of Within 7 - 24 months... YES

Professionals on movies and games and such won't be replaced. But "most" numerically... the people that do marketing ads, logos, freelance character design, random drawings of people's art, translators for manuals/guides, etc. I think ad-hoc commission work will not be a good career.

But senior roles and "technical artists" will be very much in demand: A very proficient artist will be able to replace a dozen artists while keeping everything consistent. Localizations will need someone in charge of making the whole translation coherent and with a distinct personality, even if lots of pieces can be machine-translated.

I think it will mostly be hard to get an entry-level job.