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Will any Manifold Plays Chess market make a bafflingly bad move? [See Desc.]
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resolved Mar 20
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YES

This resolution will be very vibes-based, but I will try to be as fair as possible.

NOTE: If the largest YES holder on a given move is a YES holder in this market, this market will ignore that move! I don't want to encourage bad moves to be made to manipulate this market.

For each @Robincvgr "Manifold Plays Chess" market resolution for the current game of chess, anyone may reply here and make the case for it being not just bad, but bafflingly bad. As in, whoever bet on this move either missed something obvious that would happen next turn, or was trolling. Also applies to "offer draw" if clearly winning, or resigning if there's still a real chance of victory.

If there's consensus in the comments that it should count (aside from people who I subjectively judge to be in bad faith), this market resolves YES. Otherwise, resolves NO after the game ends or the chess markets end (if they aren't continued by another person.)

  • Update 2025-03-16 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Clarification Update:

    • Only moves that are obviously bad on the immediate next turn will be considered.

    • Mistakes that require multi-move deeper analysis will not count unless the blunder is apparent by the following move.

    • Using engine evaluations like Stockfish is deemed appropriate for a different market and not for this one.

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This probably should resolve YES now, black has a clearly winning advantage (<-3 which is undefendable for white) but they offered a draw

@spiderduckpig I think so too. Any objections? @traders

bought Ṁ400 YES

@MingCat No objection other than the fact that this market should've resolved YES far before that

@copiumarc Like what was the plan with Bc5 (this is fine) d3 Bb4? c3 Bf8? that's gotta be trolling right

@copiumarc I should've specified, but the intended meaning was for markets made after this one

@MingCat sounds good to me

Could we plug in the move into Stockfish or some other chess engine to see if it judges a move as a blunder?

@Quroe I think this would be a fine criteria for a different market, but here I'm particularly interested in moves that are obviously bad. Multi-move deep mistakes wouldn't count unless they'd be apparent by next turn

If people make a "bad move", why do people assume it has something to do with missing something or "trolling"? The point of the market doesn't seem to be making good moves to me, just choosing what board position the next market will start from.

@CollinMatthews That's fair. That was intended to describe the sort of standards it'd take to consider a move bafflingly bad, not the underlying paychology

bought Ṁ10 YES

I'm guessing yes. They've already made multiple bad moves to scam whales(me) out of their mana. They can do it again very easily.