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Here is the poll to decide how to resolve this

@JoshuaWilkes in an ideal world this would get more votes than the question had holders, so 18+, but if it's close and no-one objects I'll just use the answer. If the poll gets very little response I reserve the right to pursue another solution

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Last day of the poll and we could really use a few more answers!

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We didn't get close to 'quorum', but the results were fairly clear. I will ask for this to be resolved to NO unless someone objects with a good argument within 24 hours

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I'm doing the resolving for this market. There are four left open, I believe they all resolve to NO but for various reasons I'm starting a 24 hour amnesty period for anyone to produce information showing otherwise.

I have clarified to someone in a DM that Sam saying 'that's how the jets lag' does not count as him mentioning aeroplanes.

Okay, so in episode 4 there is what can only be described as a total shitstorm in terms of resolving two of the questions. Again, I'm not going to explain why until next week, but I've resolved them now because I really don't want people trading off what they think I might do instead of what took place in the episode.

I have resolved Snack Zone to YES. This will stand. I anticipate there will be some debate over this, and if people really want to litigate it I'll hand it over for adjudication, but my position is that it's very hard to argue with the statement "We got an episode of the Snack Zone".

I have resolved Choo Choo Chew to percentage. After next week I will run a poll on whether this should be YES, NO or N/A, and have a mod re-resolve it to the result. Frankly this one is a nightmare, but if you don't have Nebula you'll have to wait to see why.

As before, please feel free to DM me to discuss, but don't put spoilers here .

I have NAed this, because I think that events in episode three have made it difficult to resolve fairly. I'm not going to discuss those events publicly until episode three airs on YouTube, but feel free to DM me.

@JoshuaWilkes People who only watch on YouTube still won't know, because it's revealed on the Layover, but Sam and Adam went through Ben's hiding station on an express service and then came back to him on a local train, but it was intentional and they basically knew he was there.

I NAed because it seems to be a conflict between what is technically true and what is in the spirit of the question.

@JoshuaWilkes if something happens, definitively (i.e., has proof, happens during gameplay / not during rest period), but the edit doesn't show it, will the market resolve Yes?
For example, if someone most definitely went to The Canton of the Grisons, but for edit or continuity reasons, they don't show it (but there is clear other proof, such as a train connection they made, or an off-show interview before it's over, etc), would that still count?

edit: and not talking about fondue, you're clear about that one
edit 2: added note about it happening during gameplay for clarification, above

@andrew For the season ten market I'm going to tighten this up and try and remove any ambiguity. But I think it's too late for this market so I'll just try to add layers instead:

My preference is this:

for cases which are comparable to fondue, we follow the fondue precedent and say you have to see it in the episode.

for cases where physical location is relevant, if the information we have reveals it must be true, even if we don't see it it should resolve true.

(eg if someone takes a train that briefly passes through Grisons but they don't show footage of that part, it should resolve YES)

The big caveat with this is that I've said I might outsource resolution for subjective cases where I've already bet. So unfortunately the above is as much a guide for whoever resolves this as it is a definitive statement.

@Andrew I'd be happy to try to be more definitive on a specific question

@andrew I think you will want to notice my latest action

@JoshuaWilkes Thanks, I’m happy with that.

Clarification:

Things we see or here during the 'outro' where the producers talk directly to camera in a studio setting do not count.

I want to get out ahead of this. If we don't see footage of someone eating fondue, it won't count

@JoshuaWilkes I did imply this down below, which I will argue gives me cover here. Luckily I haven't bet on this question and I won't.

they use “runs”

@mana this is a bit controversial, but I reckon that they will probably stop calling them this, just because it's technically incorrect and it seems obvious they were doing so in reference to Tag.

We'll see! I don't think 'hides' sounds particularly natural either

(I'll edit answers if I feel it's necessary but possibly they'll be resolved before then)

What's the "(A->B)" signify?

@PaintspotInfez it means they use the boat to travel from one place to another (however short), as opposed to using a boat in a pond for fun or similar

For example, in New Zealand the Bay of Islands challenge would not have resolved this YES.

Yeah baby!