[Poll] How much do you enjoy limit orders with the new UI?
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resolved Aug 11
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Write in with a comment of your subjective enjoyment of this feature, from 0% to 100%.

The market resolves to the median percent given, using the most recent percent per person.

I'd love to hear more about what could be improved or other thoughts you have about limit orders.

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predicted YES

@JamesGrugett resolve por favor?

At the very least, I think it should have a link or an overlay explaining what it means, what is expected in each field. Because here, I've looked at "quick/limit" and no idea whatshowever how it's supposed to be used, what it does
predicted YES
@ArthurMilchior it's a way of saying you're willing to buy YES or NO at a given price that is different than the current price. Aka "I won't pay M$0.50 for a YES share, but I would pay M$0.33 for a YES share"
It'd be neat if the graph showed visually how tight the limit orders were over time. Perhaps by showing how far a m10, m100, and m1000 order would move the market in each direction via a green gradient, taking account liquidity and limit orders. This can also be a visual cue to bet or update: if there is a tight green gradient at 50% and I think the true odds are 90%, either I can make a lot of mana, or I'm wrong.
predicted YES
@MartinRandall this would be cool, and a potential better use for the green shading than the current "shade down" (which I prefer to no shading at all but also am aware isn't informationally useful).
sold แน€7 of NO
90%
Limit orders are executing as market orders
0% - can no longer get this to work. I tried to set up a limit order to buy m1 of NO at 10% on a market currently at 6% and it told me: > Max NO payout M$999 (+99900.0%) Which seems wrong. After selecting to place the bet, it turned out my limit order was: > NO 99.9% M$10
@MartinRandall Terribly sorry, last change introduced a different bug, which should be fixed now.
@JamesGrugett Thanks, back up to 50%.
10% only because itโ€™s crashing for me on mobile and desktop on this market (doesnโ€™t crash for other numeric markets): https://manifold.markets/cosmo/win-100-how-much-cash-will-nomic-ha-be4cb3906a73
@Charlie Thanks for reporting! It's fixed now!
@JamesGrugett thanks for fixing!
bought แน€1 of YES
80%
10% - I know I was the one who advocated for this change, but I realize now that this option is way less flexible, and I miss the advanced configuration multiple orders allowed (maybe propose it under an advanced tab?). It also feels less intuitive, but that might be because I got used to normal limit orders? In particular maybe the defaults should be 0% and 100% so that it matches the intuition of greyed out placeholders? Also, this new UI crashes my browser tab from time to time
predicted NO
@JoyVoid How is it less flexible? You can leave one empty and then it just puts in a single limit order exactly as before (as far as I know). Maybe it's not obvious that you don't have to fill in both boxes?
Hmm, right now for instance, the market is at 77%, low's placeholder is 69% and high's placeholder is 79% Maybe it's just placeholder as suggestion and not placeholder as value, in which case I don't find it obvious
@JoyVoid Thanks for weighing in @JoyVoid! I updated the UI again โ€” hopefully this is more intuitive! What do you think? The placeholders were suggestions, yeah! But I'm not sure that's clear. I could try removing them, but I thought it looked empty. Also, I can look into the crashes.
Ok, I just removed the placeholder labels so it just shows '0' in the percent inputs. Hopefully users just gloss over that, while subtly informing them they should enter a number.
@JamesGrugett 0 works well, you could also try with YES at 100% and NO at 0% to indicate the default behavior. Thanks for weighing in, I'll try them a little and update my percentage!
@JamesGrugett Also, may I ask if there is a reasoning for not allowing more decimals? I'd like to bet on markets that are at 99.5%, and I'd love to be able to bet, e.g 99.3% or 98.5, the higher we are the more those matters.
predicted YES
@JoyVoid I'd also like the ability to bet to the tenth place. Could be beneficial to only allow it when the probability is above 90% or below 10%, though. Otherwise you'd get very annoying 0.1% increment limit order fights, which aren't really useful or informational outside of the extreme high and low end.
85% - seems nice, and it hasn't crashed since changing to a modal. I haven't used the upper and lower bounds at the same time. By far the Max Payout is what I'd change: Being able to know how much I'd get if it resolved to the probability (especially for pseudonumeric markets), how much I'd get for YES and NO, etc.
bought แน€10 of NO
This is much better for me! But I'm betting that it's a bit confusing to many people. If you wanted to make it more familiar and perhaps easier to understand, I think you could probably just change the labels around a bit - label low = YES and high = NO and then it basically becomes the same as before, except imo easier to use (one less click to switch between yes/no, and easier not to accidentally bet the wrong direction).
predicted NO
90%
predicted NO
Also the current fill indicator is very helpful!
predicted NO
With no background text and a move to YES/NO labels (and amount listed first, not last) would be clearly better than before; without those itโ€™s a bit of an eyesore