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Will GPT 4.5/GPT 5 have 30 more elo than #2 on the LMSYS leaderboard two weeks after it is released.

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@JamesF GPT 4.5 has been released and did not have more elo than #2 on the leaderboard. This can be resolved.

I'm assuming this about GPT 4.5 right - March 2025?

or is it about GPT 5 - ~June 2025?

What if they launch GPT-4.5 and GPT-4.5 Lite?

Is this asking about a 30 elo gap between it and the next chatbot?

@Paul Yeah between the next highest ranked

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