Most of them are inactive. Resolves yes if at least one person who is currently a moderator is no longer a moderator before end of June 2026, Los Angeles time.
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not sure what this accomplishes exactly. historically moderators lost moderatorship for abuse or wanting to quit. a few have been knocked for inactivity but mostly we accept that people come and go. we all have lives and this is a volunteer thing so no one expects anybody to be diligent daily and the reality is there are a lot of tasks for mods to cover and some (like massive spam) are simply better handled by the small admin team
@Stralor I am interested in adding new mods, which may require removing old mods. Not necessarily the case, but there was no special thought given to me buying yes other than that lol
Well if you run into more users who have contributed for long enough to the site to be trusted with sweeping powers AND want to spend their time doing boring clean up, please LMK—usually those are in very short supply!
Until then, I’d expect some latency between when you complain and when someone is available to handle spam.
@Ziddletwix I’d happily do all that. I could have handled all that spam for you. And I could do boring tasks. It could have another tag instead of moderator. I wouldn’t like to be a moderator.
@Jack1 that’s 99% of what a moderator does, so it sounds like you want to be a moderator but don’t like the word/tag? I don’t think it’d be a good idea to give someone mod powers without duly labeling them as a mod. It’s totally fine to not want that, but that’s the crux here. A mod is just someone trustworthy enough to be given the powers to do that boring clean up of the site (and who is willing to do that).
so again I mean this genuinely, if you find other users who are long term active and trustworthy and want to do the work of a mod, please LMK bc those are in short supply. If not, I would not be surprised by the resulting short supply!
@Ziddletwix @deagol @brod @Simon74fe @ChristopherRandles
I don’t talk to them but they all seem long term active and trustworthy just not sure if they’d be interested.
@Jack1 personally i would be happy to endorse any of them to be mods (i have no real input here @Gen would make the call), i agree those would be good picks! (fwiw i'm pretty sure some have been asked before lol, but i could be remembering wrong). most people don't want to do it.
back to the original thread, given that willing mods are in very short supply, it's silly and pointless to remove old mods—there's no finite number of accounts that can be labeled as mods, it can be as many as needed, but people vary in activity. (pat was gone from the site for a long period and then returned and has now resolved the most tickets of any mod, it would have been silly and pointless to remove him).
if you want more mods, i highly encourage nominating people to genzy and convincing them to accept it!
@Ziddletwix @Gen I'm not throwing my hat in the ring just yet, but I'm curious what actions or abilities moderators lose when they become a one. Are there things that they wish they could do, but can't because they need to set a good example?
I have a passing interest, but I'm not sure if I trust myself with power.
For example, my biggest worry is with my P2P loans. I don't want people to say "ban me if I don't repay". I don't want people to have that expectation. I wouldn't do that, but I don't want somebody to mistakenly think that that's how I could operate.
@Quroe it's a complicated answer. there are rules and expectations for mods, mostly around how and when we use our mod powers and making sure we don't use them to give ourselves an unfair advantage. the core idea is just that we can be held to a higher standard of behavior and trust.
the badge used to be called "trustworthy-ish" after all! we inherit that vibe still.
I will say in many ways they're a social agreement we've made among ourselves, and sometimes sought to codify with the admin team. banning a user for personal gain (e.g. reprisals for a personal foul in p2p loans) would be against our ethos, whereas banning a user who abusively exploits the p2p loan culture with other users isnt out of the question but historically not something we've done. if a user requests being banned for failing to pay up... well that's amusing and interesting new territory.
what we can and can't do is more about spirit than anything. we should contribute positively: respectful discourse, sincere resolutions, non-exploitative trades, acting on opportunities to lean on users to improve the culture, etc. but we still have free reign for shenanigans when clearly lampshaded. I've long been a proponent of seeing it as a "do-ocracy" and many agree with me; if we can use our powers for prosocial gain in ways not already defined we have the discretion to act. part of that is "just do it" first and then engage in an ongoing negotiation with ourselves and admins about what we want to accept from each other!
@Quroe what I can't do that I wish I could:
trade on mod reports and grab some types of profit when I have an edge (we've agreed this is an unfair advantage, and I was a proponent of the policy, but sometimes it feels like it should be fairplay when we aren't immimently resolving and we give other traders the opportunity to act first. but perhaps that's an example of "higher quality behavior": I generally refrain even then)
unilaterally change the economic balance of the site
@Stralor Part of me also enjoys knowing that I have earned the reputation I have, not because it was handed down to me from on high. Maybe it's just a personal ego thing I have to work on. Thoughts?
@Quroe we all earned our reputations before becoming mods. but yeah over time it gets blurry as time fades all memory. it might not be clear to new users in a year that a mod exhibited the ethos before their badge, yet that's exactly the way it works.
none of us will deny you that pride even if newer and less mature users chafe and shout "the mods are fascists and can't be trusted!"