Christopher Columbus discovers America on October 12, 1492?
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This market resolves YES if historical records confirm that Christopher Columbus made landfall in the Americas on October 12, 1492. It resolves NO if historical evidence indicates he did not reach the Americas on that date.

Background

Christopher Columbus, an Italian explorer sailing under the Spanish flag, embarked on a westward voyage across the Atlantic Ocean in 1492, seeking a new route to Asia. On October 12, 1492, Columbus and his crew landed on an island in the Bahamas, which he named San Salvador. This marked the first documented European contact with the Caribbean since the Norse expeditions centuries earlier.

Considerations

  • Columbus did not actually reach the mainland of what is now the United States during this voyage, but rather landed on an island in the Bahamas.

  • Columbus believed he had reached the East Indies, not a new continent, which is why he referred to the indigenous peoples he encountered as "Indians."

  • The Americas were already inhabited by indigenous peoples for thousands of years before Columbus's arrival.

  • Some evidence suggests other Europeans, such as Norse explorer Leif Erikson, reached parts of North America around 500 years before Columbus.

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@Hash not entirely clear what's going on here but make sure you have reviewed the community guidelines and understand your role as question creator. You're allowed to create and manage fun markets, but resolutions still need to be based on...something. The description here talks about things like historical evidence, but I don't see much of that going on in the comment section.

There's some chance you could get the benefit of the doubt the first time around, but if this becomes a repeat occurrence it will be under a lot of scrutiny.

@Eliza are you going to unresolve it?

@spiderduckpig depends what happens next

@Eliza What do you mean by what happens next? Isn't the market just clearly misresolved? I don't have a stake in it.

@spiderduckpig the mod guidelines paint a very murky line between a "blatantly misresolved" market and a ""misresolved"" market. So asking the creator about their intentions is a reasonable step to take to evaluate the situation. I have an idea how this might turn out, but if I start taking a bunch of actions before the creator responds, things get even more confusing.

The market's title doesn't quite match the resolution criteria part, and no one seems to have presented the "historical evidence" in any convincing manner...but the creator can possibly clear this up. Also the market seemed to have the default 1 week closing date and perhaps the creator is unaware they could have chosen to leave trading open longer.

Truly a blessed resolution hath been begotten

@Hash Resolves YES

@evan elaborate upon thine case

A.) what is America, some techbro name for India?

B.) I was in Portuguese court when he presented his proposal, dude doesn't even know the difference between a Arabic mile and a Roman mile
C.) I would have said something, but he was too much of a dick that I'll be happy when he starves 2/3's of the way to India if he doesn't sink before then

D.) Even if he does "discover" the new route to India or whatever it would obviously be later than October 12th

for the intellectual stability of the realm, hoping the pope sends all YES holders to die on the next crusade

@StopPunting Pope Alexander VI was born under the crown of Aragon and has a good relation with Spain, so I find it unlikely that he would punish YES holders for having faith in the success of a mission under the Spanish flag. If anything, I'd wager he'll be willing to confirm the rights of the Spanish crown to whatever exclusive trade route or unknown lands Colombus might find, assuming he succeeds. I don't think we'll be having a crusade any time soon.

@TenShino

One doth recall that in the second volume of the annals of the creed of assassins, that His Holiness hath initially been referred to as "the Spaniard" for this very reason. I pray that no ill fate may befall him in these uncertain times.

One needeth enquire some matters of utmost effect upon thine query:

  • What art this "America" of which thou uttereth? Perchance some foreign city betwixt these "Bahamas" islands, this "Caribbean" of the Norsemen, and this "United States" mainland of which thou allegeth?

  • Thou uttereth of confirming thine assertion by means of historiographical records, yet thou doth not specify upon which codices in which bibliotheca of the monasteries yonder thou intendeth to inspect. Art thou a scholar of divinity, and thus pursue such knowledge primarily in holy texts such as the Holy Bible of Our Lord, and perchance secondarily in writings of fellow theologians among them Thomas Aquinas? Or art thou instead a scholar of the classics, and thereupon instead hunt for the desired revelations in the histories and geographies of the ancients, perchance Herodotus or Pliny the Elder?

  • Hath thou planned a strict criterion for lexemes of ambiguity? For discovery, counteth the mere finding of a land, or needeth one be the first man of Christendom, or indeed the first man of any variety including pagans and heretics? Counteth thou smaller islands surrounding a larger land as elements of that larger land itself?

  • Whenceforth hath thou set thine calendar for this matter? Thou uttereth of a specific datum, the twelfth day of the tenth month of the one thousand four hundred and ninety second year of our Lord, but there exist multiple conflicting calendars across Christendom, among that of Julius Caesar and that of Pope Gregory the thirteenth.

I pray that thou may shine light upon these enquiries.

@TheAllMemeingEye Hear, hear!

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