Will a Manifold user break the TOS of another website in order to resolve a market?
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@DanPowell

Sscreenshot in case the Xweet is removed for violating TOS.

@DanPowell Isn’t this breaking the TOS to manipulate the resolution of the market, rather than to “resolve” it?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the question, but it reads to me like this is about the creator of a market violating TOS in order to determine what the resolution to market should be, for example, if somebody spammed API request in order to gather the data, they need to result in market.

Can you clarify @BenjaminIkuta?

@JimHays No, you misunderstood. I could have worded it more clearly.

@DanPowell Lol, is that actually a TOS violation? It's pretty clearly not serious.

Also, didn't expect this to go meta, but I suppose there's no reason not to.

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@BenjaminIkuta What would qualify as a TOS violation if not an explicit TOS violation?

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@BenjaminIkuta It's very clearly parody, I don't think Twitter considers parody to be against TOS

The TOS https://twitter.com/en/tos state you may not violate the Rules and Policies. There is a rule against impersonation:

Impersonation

You may not pose as an existing person, group, or organization to mislead others about who you are or who you represent. Accounts that violate this policy will misrepresent their identity by using at least two elements of another identity, such as the name, image, or false claims of affiliation with another individual or organization in their profile or posts.”

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/x-impersonation-and-deceptive-identities-policy

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@JimHays

Parody, Commentary, or Fan Accounts

Accounts that depict another person, group, or organization in their profile to discuss, satirize, or share information about that entity are not in violation of this policy. While these accounts may use elements of another’s identity, they also include profile language or other indicators that inform people on X that the account is not affiliated with the subject of the profile.

To avoid confusing others about an account’s affiliation, Parody, Commentary, and Fan accounts must distinguish themselves in their account name and in their bio. Accounts that fail to sufficiently distinguish themselves are considered non-compliant and in violation of this policy.

The account meets all the criteria

I think the photo would count as 1. I don’t think the profile display name or username would count. So unless something changes (and there’s nothing in the description that says the action must occur before market close), it looks like it comes down to whether the contents of the tweet constitute a second infraction

NVM, the profile pic doesn’t count either, as it’s AI generated, not a photo. The bio does state “Satire”, as Shump mentions. So not only does it fail the impersonation criteria, it also meets the parody criteria.

https://twitter.com/_eIomnusk_

But, someone could still make another attempt before market resolution If they are fast enough

@JimHays I think I'll resolve no then. Thanks for the input.

@JimHays by market close is implied, otherwise, what, it could go on forever?

@BenjaminIkuta No, it would just have to happen before resolution. You could resolve it at any point when there was no violation under discussion

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@JimHays The account does. The xweet in question does not meet the parody criterion.

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@Shump Twitter reinstated this account with the provision that it make no claim to be the person satirized.

@DanPowell looks like the tweet is still up. Must not have been very TOS breaking.

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@BenjaminIkuta Did X support respond to your report? The number of views is consistent with nobody except manifold users ever seeing it.

@DanPowell I didn't report it. I don't think it should be removed.

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@BenjaminIkuta Did you make an effort to determine if it violated the X TOS?

@DanPowell didn't seem like genuine impersonation to me 🤷🏿‍♀️

@Shump seems so. I'll resolve if no objection.

@BenjaminIkuta only issue is that it happened before this market was created, and the market language seems to imply that this should happen in the future

Yeah that instance definitely happened, but it was before this market iirc.

@Shump oh yeah, that is what I meant.

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