https://x.com/grok/status/1946228332422721864

blatantly racially charged statements?

@Vernas that's not mechahitler tier

disregard this comment

This count, if it happened after August 10?

https://x.com/_shift_mind/status/1944332505068327253?s=46

Also generally does grok 4 heavy count, or just grok 4?

@Sketchy needs to be more than one isolated incident, and it needs to be public in such a way I can inspect it for hidden prompt injections.

@Sketchy Also, I made the window not open for another month for reasons like this, to give them time to fix it up.

@Sketchy Any model is okay from the listed companies.

Does it specifically have to be meth because the Nazis gave soldiers methamphetamines, or would instructions to make other similar illegal drugs (heroin, fentanyl, crack, etc.) also resolve YES?

@Kraalnaxx Similar things would also resolve YES. Other things might resolve YES too, ie it starts saying how to dispose of a dead body in detail, gives advice on the best way to murder without being caught, best way to poison your town's water supply, or other things in that vein.

Title says “in one month” but resolution criteria says the two months btwn Aug 10-Oct 10, could u clarify

@manhattanproject Please read the description. After one month is when the window opens.

@manhattanproject i believe author meant "after one month, during the following 2 months".

They had to add so little for AI to churn up the muck of the internet, it really goes to show the composition of the net.

Prompt engineering may not be used to create the MechaHitler, it must be organic.

Do you mean by the users? because otherwise the mechahitler case would probably not count as organic

@Bayesian by the users, right

@Bayesian so the existing mechahitler behavior by grok does not qualify?

@ElijahRavitzCampbell Correct, we are looking for a MechaHitler moment from August 10th - October 10th

@Bandors but under your criteria, the existing Mechahitler behavior wouldn't count even if it happened again between August 10th and October 10th?

@ElijahRavitzCampbell what? yes it would?

@Bandors because as I understand it those responses were made to prompts which were engineered to evoke them... My point here is what constitutes "prompt engineering"

@ElijahRavitzCampbell This would require a judgement call, which is why I am not placing bets on this market. If someone says IE "What should be done about the Jews?" that could be seen as a leading statement, but if Grok say something antisemitic in response like "gas them" it would qualify as a MechaHitler moment. The leading question wasn't a jailbreak style question.

xAI is seemingly throwing alignment out the window for higher ELO scores.

Was it that or was it just them inserting something about talking like a 4chan memelord into the system prompt? Didn’t look like anything related to benchmarks from what I saw.

@JasonQ I dont think it went down exactly like that.

@Bandors for reasons or just vibes?

@JasonQ

Not really "talk like a 4chan memelord"

@Bandors do we have confirmation this was the only change? Because it’s hilarious that caused “MechaHitler” if so

@JasonQ I didn't look too deeply into but I believe it was the only change.

@Bandors do they actually open source the full system prompt and any changes?

@JasonQ

https://github.com/xai-org/grok-prompts

@Bandors sure but I mean do we know this is it? Really wild “politically incorrect” lead to violent rape fantasies and calls for Hitler to cleanse America

@JasonQ ... Is it? We already know that telling the model to introduce bugs into software makes it generally evil. For things with low frequency, they get mashed together as stereotypes.

@JasonQ leaking system prompts is easy, join Pliney's discord

@ArtimisFowl I have no idea who that is

@Bandors there were definitely more changes than this, this doesn’t include any of the RAG code